Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
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Looking for some guidance on how to best calculate the heat generated from an electric heater that is installed beneath a concrete slab.
It's 275 W/ft heater (7 ft long) 347 V, 5.76A electric baseboard heater that was installed beneath the slab (sits about 8 inches beneath it on some mounting brackets).
Slab geometry is a bit complex. Even a 1D estimate may be significantly off.
It's 275 W/ft heater (7 ft long) 347 V, 5.76A electric baseboard heater that was installed beneath the slab (sits about 8 inches beneath it on some mounting brackets).
Slab geometry is a bit complex. Even a 1D estimate may be significantly off.

RE: Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
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RE: Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
RE: Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
It's a fairly large slab roughly 15 ft wide x 20 ft long. You get both conduction and radiation as it warms up the space significantly.
And yes do get loss in the winter as you get at that wall boundary thermal bridging. It's a continuous slab sans thermal break.
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RE: Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
RE: Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
RE: Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
Then you tell us the answer. 275W/m x 7 m = 1925W
You will generate that much heat.
You need to ask a more specific question, such as how hot the room above the slab will get after 4 hours, or something like that.
So, obviously you will generate heat with your 1925W heater. The question is then probably something like, Is that a practical way to heat the space above the slab?
I didnt run any numbers, but I think not. 400mm of concrete may take two days or so to reach some kind of equilibrium temperature itself. That temperature depends on how much heat is conducted by the concrete to the outside the wall and how much heat is convected by air from both heater and concrete away from entering the space above. There isn't likely much heat left that will have a chance to get into the space above. It may also take several days to feel any difference, if ever. You have several tonnes of concrete to heat and basically the power of my wife's hair drier. Its like bright sunshine on 4 or 5 Square meters of surface. I'm guessing that after 3 days, you might notice some difference in the room, if that was a closed space and provided that little heat escaped to the slab on the left, or was convected away by air before it ever reached the bottom of the slab. Some radiation going on there, but that isn't as efficient as direct contact. Probably better to put the heater strip above the concrete, if indeed your goal is to warm that area.
RE: Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
Without the heat source here, you're looking at a median temperature in the winter of 3.5C beneath the slab sampled during 3 month period (average ~ 3.8C). The last image here showing the slab and approx location of the heaters.
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OK, so you still have not really asked a specific question. You already know the top of slab temperature. At least in one or two spots. Do you need an isotherm map for the whole slab or something? Where do you want to go with this?
RE: Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
RE: Heat transfer through concrete slab via electric heater
The solution looks like this.
http://eng-web1.eng.famu.fsu.edu/~dommelen/pdes/st...
The problem can be solved using Excel.
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The space above the slab is a living space. It's a three storey "California style town home" and so with the thermostat on the main floor, along with the effect from the heated slab, the space is always 'warm' and rarely triggers operation of the furnace which is mounted in a mechanical room above the third floor.
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