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Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

(OP)
We've an industrial Client that recently changed how their original fire pump installation is wired. Originally it was wired to the transformer's secondary through a 1000 Amp low voltage power circuit breaker in a switchgear. The electric pump is 100 Hp and has a Jockey Pump, and it was all wired through a controller. They did it to make the testing of the aux equipment easier.

We've been asked to provide arc flash labels etc after the fact.

The new installation took the old feeder, terminated them in a new panelboard, and ran the conductors to the controller through molded case circuit breakers. The panelboard has a main breaker. The jockey pump and the other auxiliary loads in that pump house got dual feeds through transfer switches from another source.

Looking through the NEC article 695...First, does that article apply to all facilities like this? Anyone have any experience to offer some advice? I certainly don't want to bring this up to our Client without some good advice.

RE: Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

If this is a legally required fire pump it has to meet fire pump requirements in the NEC. You're not going to get any reliable advice without providing a one-line diagram. Basically, a fire pump requires a completely separate service. The devil is in the details and subject to interpretation by the AHJ. If you can post a one-line, you'll get a lot of advice - much of it conflicting probably. looking around

Cheers,

Dave

RE: Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

The industrial client should have sent the proposed changes to the underwriter engineering consultant early on the design process. That is the usual process for FM and XL Clients with fire protection related modifications. Then the changes should go to plans review with the AHJ before any construction.

The applicability of NFPA 70 (NEC) article 695 depends on your local building code, the AHJ, and the site's contract with it's underwriter.

These requirements also apply

The description sounds like the work might violate the type listing of the fire pump controller. FM and UL type listings could be involved.

RE: Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

Speaking as an AHJ, I don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling.
What the others have said is true. It must meet 695.3, Article 700, etc., I'm using the 2017. Also take a gander at 695.4(B)(3)(a)(3).

RE: Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

I’d also take issue with DPC’s statement as phrased. Like many other things, if you decide to do it, and it’s not required by code, the simple decision to do it triggers all code compliance requirements. If you have a fire pump, even if there was no requirement to install it, it exists and therefore must meet all code requirements.

I’ll see your silver lining and raise you two black clouds. - Protection Operations

RE: Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

(OP)
Below is the single line - at least what I've got of it from the EasyPower model of this Plant. On the left is how it was originally (OLD). On the right is how it was revised (NEW). This facility is so large it has it's own Fire Department.

RE: Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

Having your own fire department does not remove any of the rules from play, but it might make the AHJ situation confusing.

RE: Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

You will multiple correct answers but all of them may not be applicable to you.
Fire fighting pumps are highly regulated subject and you need to comply with the regulatory requirements of your local authorities.

RE: Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

(OP)
As all we've been asked to do is input this into the Plant model and provide arc flash labels for the new installation...That new panel board - has extremely high arc flash energy potential. That usually draws red flags in and of itself seeing that on the label, which is another good byproduct of power systems analysis.

RE: Electric fire pumps at an industrial facility - any engineering tips anyone can share ?

It's too blurry.

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