JohnRBaker,

Cool!

What is wrong with the word "chip"?

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The word that was identified for consideration was “chirp” not "chip".

As for why “chirp” was on their list, it appears to be a term used by on-line gamer's and generally describes "talking large amounts of shit" to others, particularly those whom the person looks down on or who they considers as being stupid, which is referred to as "chirping" someone.

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like , as used four times in a sentence

"As we speak" What was so bad about 'right now'?

Ted

"Irregardless"

"N times less than," where n>1.

What's wrong with "1/n^th of" or (n-1)/n^ths less than...?

My glass has a v/c ratio of 0.5

Maybe the tyranny of Murphy is the penalty for hubris. - http://xkcd.com/319/

try saying that to a general audience that barely remembers fractions

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I wish the "between ... to ..." construct would be banished to the dust bin and replaced with "between ... and ...".

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"ya know" I would not be listening to you if I knew.

Often preceded by 'like'.

Ted

My personal hate is "quantum leap" as used by clueless marketers.

"bi-" when used in conjunction with a time interval, as in "bi-monthly": The intent (whatever it may have been) is so readily misinterpreted by a factor of four that there can be no honest excuse for choosing this ambiguous construct over one of the many alternatives.

A.

...and even funnier, "Under questioning, Marcus conceded there were “a nonzero number of people in the room.”"

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... my personal dislike is the use of 'infinite'... about 40 years back, when shopping for a stove, the salesman informed my wife and myself that it had infinite temperature control to which I responded, "If I live forever, I will never take advantage of that." The guy walked away, bewildered.

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dik, some background:

"An infinite switch, simmerstat, energy regulator or infinite controller is a type of switch that allows variable power output of a heating element of an electric stove. It is called "infinite" because its average output is infinitely variable rather than being limited to a few switched levels."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_switch

yes, infinitely variable temperature control. these days, with digital controllers, is not infinitely variable.

"gonna" in anything other than a text.

@zues ... do you prefer "fortnightly" ? actually bi-monthly is precise (every 2 months) ... semi-monthly is twice a month. To say "bi-monthly" to mean "have 2 meetings each month" is ... "wrong".

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"An infinite switch, simmerstat, energy regulator or infinite controller is a type of switch that allows variable power output of a heating element of an electric stove

Shouldn't this be called a non-discrete switch? [insert]joke here[/insert]

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Part of my job involves selecting and adjusting intervals for periodic maintenance activities.

If I am doing something once every four years and then I change it to once every two years, am I increasing the frequency or decreasing the frequency?

If you're familiar with the mathematical definition of frequency, then you should conclude that increasing frequency means something happens more often

And even just noting the similarity of the words "frequency" and "frequent", you'd conclude that more frequent should mean higher frequency.

So if you change from doing something once per four years to once per two years, you are doing it more often and the frequency has increased.

Mathematically f = 1/T. The interval is the inverse of frequency... when you decreased the interval you increased the frequency.

Everything above seems simple and obvious....

....BUT, I had an old Mech Eng boss who was never on board with that. In his mind, four years was the "frequency", and going from once every four years to once every two years was "decreasing the frequency". Some of the non-engineers seemed to preferr his terminology also, but they had an excuse (they weren't engineers). He didn't have any excuse, it was just his thing.

After failing to convince him of the proper usage, I gave up and started using the word "interval" in work products or speech to avoid any misunderstanding. But he just kept on incorrectly using the word frequency that way until the day he retired.

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(2B)+(2B)' ?

Call the variable device continuously variable instead of infinitely variable.

Ted

Differentiation of something with a few steps vs. lots of steps requires more hyperbole than "continuously variable," as they are both that way.

We got snookered when we bought a house in the Sunset District in SF; sounded good, seeing sunsets every day, hah! Sunset is the foggiest and most overcast part of SF, we saw way more fog and clouds than sunset. Listening to the radio and the announcer would say something, "It's a nice sunny afternoon today," "NOI!!!" and that was only about 5 miles away, but critically, that side of SF has a ridge of hills to block out the fog/clouds.

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@rb1957: Unfortunately, there are enough respected dictionaries around that allow the term to mean two completely different things that somebody could be excused for disagreeing with you.

"Design intent"

Design is intent!

Twitt chirping shit, after that don't complain.

luis

"I'm going to enter you into the computer" . . .

my response is "no you will not."

You will be assimilated...

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I see someone saw 'Tron'

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What's it been, 38.4 years or so... Most of the summer intern at HP, Corvallis went to see it when it showed in the small downtown theater. I remember that I saw it when it first came out. Don't remember much, so if I made a reference to it it was mere coincidence.

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Huh, and I thought it was the Borg

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"One of the only ..."

This is a meaningless space-filler, used to indicate that someone thinks something is relatively uncommon, but without any evidence to substantiate that belief. It is particularly annoying when you hear a reporter use the phrase, because they couldn't be bothered to do any research to see if it is in fact in any way remarkable.

E.g. "One of the only legal success Trump has had since election day was in Philadelphia in Pennsylvania a few days after election day while the initial counting of the vote was happening." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-30/us-politics...

So how many legal victories has Trump had? One? Two? Five? Fifty? Two hundred?

The phrase should be banished, unless it is given a quantitative measure to give it meaning - e.g."Mexico is one of only two countries to have an x in their name".

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In school room most of the schoolboys are chirping on the mobile, instead of hearing what the teacher is saying, this is happening at a planetary level, sometimes with violence, and how can we turn this in a little bit more hopefuly?

luis

"I nearly s#*t myself."

Without the "on" that phrase makes no sense. Every time I hear that, I want to strangle the speaker.

Why? If it were the letter "o" it would make sense, wouldn't it?

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Why? If it were the letter "o" it would make sense, wouldn't it?

Indeed! Different commonly used phrase, however.

Paradigm shift. "Change" is a perfectly acceptable single word that everyone can understand.

Disrupter, as in "market disrupter". To me, a disrupter is a Klingon weapon.

"It is what it is." When is something NOT what it is? Side note: In Italian (my mother is Italian), the same concept has been boiled down to a single utterance of "Boh", usually delivered with a shrug of the shoulders.





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Indeed! Different commonly used phrase, however.

Sure, but either way, stuff coming out of an orifice I think it just requires a paradigm shift

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Or a quantum leap. No that's actually a really short distance.

True facts.

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I know what they are... but, if you live forever you will never take advantage of that feature; it's simply sales hype. it is also my understanding that many changes are quantum related. If, for example, you changed Planck's Constant... temperature change in a room would not be 'linear or continual', but would be in distinct steps.

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At this point in time, I would like to see a "point out of time."

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Paradigm shift "Change" is a perfectly acceptable single word that everyone can understand.

Well, the original meaning was a fundamental change in approach or underlying assumptions in the natural sciences, on the order of Newton, Brahe, Darwin or Einstein.

The meaning has been substantially diluted since.

My glass has a v/c ratio of 0.5

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It is what it is

I like this saying. I’m not sure of a neater way of saying it?

I thought “Boh” means “What are you asking me for? How should I know?”

artisanal! yes! They've captured that one!

I don't like, "Close proximity." Proximity means close!

"It is what it is!" Yes! Just too much!

"Unprecedented" seems the most overused word in the last 12 months!

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It is what it is

Oh, c'mon, it's paraphrase of Popeye's, "I yam what I yam..." You can't go wrong there.

My current gripe are all the news reporters that keep pronouncing "percaution" instead of "precaution"

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2 things that bug me used by American speakers are...

1. Wash /bathroom in lieu of toilet, I want to pee not have a bath.
2. Ass and not arse, it's get off your arse - not get off your ass unless of course happen to be riding one.

It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)

So you're OK with bonnet, boot, lift, flat, underground, programmme, chemist's, coach, aeroplane, cheque, timing, gear level, hob, tap, loo, WC, pop in, flyover, high street, pitch, jumper, lorry, hoover and sorted? Not to mention 2nd floor is the 3rd.

Put "Let's do this, OK?" on the other list.

I don't often use them... but, understand what they mean... communication is not impaired. I often spell programme...

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How could I forgot... carriage way and roundabout. & fag.
Oh.. and ladybird. No not Ladybird Johnson.
Do you know that Googling "Ladybird" does not return any Johnsons.

You also missed pavement, napkin and fanny.

As Churchill was reported to have said (but never proven) that "America and England, two great nations, divided by a common language".

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Bummer!

And millennial TV period show script writers that think we said, "misspoke", "awesome", "capture hearts and minds" in Vietnam. That just blows my mind.

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1. Wash /bathroom in lieu of toilet, I want to pee not have a bath.

So, you don't wash your hands afterwards?

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The worst is, "engineer" means anyone that can pick up a "spanner" or apparently drive a white "lorry". Actually a "white van". I think a lorry is technically larger than a van, but ... I can't be sure.

"Try and" needs to go away. Why can't people say "try to" when they want to use an infinitive verb?

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I don't think they're wanting to use an infinitive
> not sure they even know what that is

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Then again it would be confusing to say, "Fine. Go ahead to do it". Working not.

"Impact" would be a good one to go. Its current use is often when the writer cannot decide if "effect" or "affect" is the correct word and "impact" is just slotted in there. Rather than "Economic effect of ...", it's the "Economic impact of ..."
Instead of "What is affected ..." it's "What is impacted ..."

More recently, "comprise" is on the ropes as it has been used as a 100% substitute for "compose."

For example: "A gun comprises a barrel, ..." is the correct use.

Now it's "A gun is comprised of a barrel, ..."

"Comprise" was short for "is made of" in many cases. But that hasn't stopped the misuse becoming common use.

"Colocated"! Where did that come from? What's wrong with together, superimposed, overlayed, along side, on top? "The two pipelines are collocated". See, my spell check changed it.
Would not co-located mean forcing one pipe inside the other? Hope one is of smaller diameter.

Speaking of "pipeline"; a "pipeline" is not some product in development. Pipelines take water, oil, gas, etc. from point A to point B. Its not some miracle drug that will get FDA approval next year.

Those two really make me .

Composed/comprised: I accept either. Too subtle a difference to make a fuss about and, if I corrected someone's report or something, it'll mean an argument that won't end well, if it ever ends.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/comprise-vs-compose/

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Its not some miracle drug that will get FDA approval next year.

But most modern CPUs comprises a pipeline, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_(computing)

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Them too. Even welding rods, gloves and hard hats "are in the pipeline". The welder is still missing.

...and sometimes real shit!

Those are called "pooplines".

I vote for banishing "ya know" and "I mean". Mostly I hear these as a substitute for "um", "uh" etc during a discussion. I understand not everyone is a professional speaker but for some I know these phrases are dotted in their sentences more numerous than the actual words they would have used!

Also would enjoy hearing "like" only as it was intended. Any other use like drives me like crazy.

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I think that's from California influence... I had a neighbour that moved to California and he came back for a visit about 50 years back and that was the first I heard the 'like' expression... he had a few others, but they've fallen by the wayside.

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You know what is a "camone" in Portugal?

I do now... thanks.

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"Patriot"

Misstep and misspoke for I FUp and then lied about it.

"Ventilated," as in making a big hole unintentionally or through overuse. "They ventilated an engine block".....nope, in my book they just plain blew it up!

I'd like to stand down the whole d@@n media and send them back to school. Many of them wouldn't make it past Grade 9 remedial English.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

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My current gripe are all the news reporters that keep pronouncing "percaution" instead of "precaution"

So true. You just can't ecscape those people.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

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I'd like to stand down the whole d@@n media and send them back to school. Many of them wouldn't make it past Grade 9 remedial English.

A long time ago, I was dating a woman who was taking journalism, and who later worked in PR. At some point, they tested her writing and they told her she wrote at a level that was readable by someone with a grade eight education. This was good. They need to dumb it down.

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Though it’s been many a moon since, I can still remember the preface to my high school chemistry text and the authors patting themselves on the back for having written what should have been a college prep text at an eighth grade reading level.

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drawoh,

You can trace the decline of quality journalism to the emergence of journalism schools churning out pretty faces with credentials.
It is one of those careers that should select you, not the other way around.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

That too, as well as the loss of cursive writing skills and quality educators.

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drawoh,

You can trace the decline of quality journalism to the emergence of journalism schools churning out pretty faces with credentials.

Has journalism declined over the years?

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Mark Devin, your politeness is so over powering your post has been red flagged for removal.

It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)

"Time is of essence."

I tried to get that taken out of an Invitation to Tender once, and had it politely but pointedly explained to me that it does actually have a real, legal and important meaning. Not that most people use it that way.

A.

"Time is of the Essence" really does have a serious legal implication, like "force majeure", etc.

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In all reality ...
What? You have been making up stuff this whole time?

"Also, something something something, as well"

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

John R. Baker,

'chirp' goes back a very long way in hockey.

In cricket (UK, Australia) they call it 'sledging', but it is much nastier and often too personal. And I hate the word.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

Did you know the most overused buzzword today is literally literally? Literally!

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

I didn't know what 'sledging' was...

https://www.scoopwhoop.com/sports/cricket-sledging...

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The Australian ones are better...

https://barsouthhockey.wordpress.com/2015/06/18/20...

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Had a lively discussion on whether the words Issue and Challenge are nouns or verbs. I finished my argument with the statement, "I issue a challenge, because you want to challenge the issue."