Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
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I cannot get any sense out of Google. please help!
High speed, high power alternators don't seem to come up.
I don't know why, they are used on micro-turbine gen sets, so someone must make them???
I cannot get any sense out of Google. please help!
High speed, high power alternators don't seem to come up.
I don't know why, they are used on micro-turbine gen sets, so someone must make them???
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
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RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
Faster than that will probably be special built for the turbine manufacturer.
At 60 Hz, the maximum speed of a conventional alternator is 3600 RPM.
Higher speeds are possible if the output is rectified and then inverted back to a more usable frequency.
Maybe you should be looking at high speed reduction gear sets.
Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
Anything between 150 and 400 kw could be suitable- It is for a high-speed genset for a hybrid aircraft-basically a giant quadcopter
Running at full power would result in a 200 mph breeze - a little dangerous to be near! :) - the prop(s) airflow would likely have a bit of a hernia, too.
I would like to try running it off a heavily turbocharged 4 cylinder motor- with beefed up internals..
It looks a bit like: any users get theirs custom built, and buy many of them. Not really off-the-shelf.
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
You want 400 KW at 8000 RPM.
A typical generator turns at 1800 RPM.
HP or mechanical KW is proportional to Torque times RPM.
If you go from 1800 to 8000 RPM you theoretically can increase the power from 90 KW to 400 KW.
An induction motor rated for 1760 RPM will turn at about 7820 RPM.
Your challenge is to find 60 Hz equipment that will take the mechanical forces associated with those speeds.
Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
A lot of the components should be common from standard motors/alternators. It likely needs to be water-cooled.
In New Zealand, it is hard to find someone who actually advertises these service. Maybe a motor rewind outfit,if they get into water-cooled custom stuff? I will find and ask a few.
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
I like the electric car suggestion, Brian.
Bill
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"Why not the best?"
Jimmy Carter
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
The main problem is 4 x the heat, and 1000-odd amps is a bit high.
We need to go to 1000 v plus, with associated air gaps etc, plus extra cooling.
We need a motor designer to lay it out, and see what can be done with any standard parts.
I then need to follow this downstream to motors, transformers, inverters, control etc.
1000 V is not so good for general use- I prefer 500-600 V -not so much risk of explosions, death, instant sunburn, etc.
A hybrid drive off a very powerful V8 might be big enough- I don't know of any common ones. Porsche sports car??
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
It is permanent-magnet synchronous, and probably worth a look-see for sizing and general tech.
211 kw continuous I could work with, just to get going. This could be reworked as an alternator by a moderately competent
electronics guy. More of them around than full-blown electrical engineers.
I will look for more of these type motors. It has an output reduction, which could possibly be removed to drive it fast.
Most likely it would need a new fabricated end cap/bearing mount..
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
Waiting on a reply.
Now to find aviation-rated reduction boxes with a prop-mount output shaft.
I have put this on the rotorcraft forum.
RE: Hello, I am looking for enhanced search ability for specialist alternator suppliers
CR
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