×
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!

*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here

Offset Link Beams

Offset Link Beams

Offset Link Beams

(OP)
Curious as to others' opinion on whether they would go for #1 or #2 for a classic coupled stair/lift core setup that doesn't quite line up (assuming both stair/lift inner dimensions are fixed/minimised to maximise the GIA/£/$).

EDIT - never mind my pros/cons, one of them was a non-issue.




Replies continue below

Recommended for you

RE: Offset Link Beams

If the plan layout is up to the liking of the structural engineer, there wouldn't be any offset. Both are not particularly bad, nor good.

RE: Offset Link Beams

I think number one is the most constructible.

RE: Offset Link Beams

With option #2, could you extend the beam further North?

In either case, I believe #2 provides the best option to achieve adequate development of reinforcement. I agree with jayrod that number one is more constructible and is likely also less architecturally sensitive.

RE: Offset Link Beams

How much of an offset are we talking about here?

Why couldn't they just make the two lift shafts slightly larger to line everything up. If we're talking about a matter of 3-4" which is what it appears on the sketch, even if it's 6", can we not beg the architect to line all those walls up? (I get you are trying to remove that as an option to maximize available space, but some things just make no sense. This is one of those times where I feel it makes no sense to go through all these structural gymnastics.)

RE: Offset Link Beams

- #1 will be more economical but really only permits one sided coupling at the offset beam. Only you know if that's sufficient.

- #2 is better from a mechanical perspective as it can accommodate true, two sided coupling, albeit with some degree of weirdness in the middle of the coupling beam where the forces get shifted over.

RE: Offset Link Beams


If i were in your shoes, I will try to align the lift wall to staircase wall. Just increasing the lift hole several cm.s to line up should not be a big issue..

RE: Offset Link Beams

#2. I don't see the difficulty of construction, and the wall to wall force transmission is much better.

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members! Already a Member? Login



News


Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close