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MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

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Hi,

I need your help.

We work in a marine terminal (offshore) which is meant for loading and unloading of petroleum products.

There is no rig (no drilling / exploration activity) and it is only a terminal for loading / unloading products into and from ships.

Commuting to & from the terminal is by boat.

What is the training requirement for personnel who commute by boat & work in the marine terminal?

We are of the opinion that providing personal flotation devices (like lifebuoy, life jacket) and other administrative controls are adeqaute.

However, we were told by one consultant that sea survival training is essential. We looked at OPITO standards and found that the training such as HUET, BOSIET are required for offshore rigs.

Can someone clarify the sea survival training requirement and if it is applicable for such marine terminals?



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RE: MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

Your opinion on training is wholely inadequate.

RE: MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

Hmmmm,

A lot depends on the risk evaluation of the activity, wave and wind conditions, how exposed this "marine terminal (offshore)" actually is.

I don't believe this is able to be determined here without a lot more information.

Within a harbour environment, with good communications, access to rescue craft etc, you could look at any vessel like a passenger ferry and see what they need.

Once you get into open seas and longer distances, more remote from rescue facilities then it starts getting more hazardous.

I've been on access boats to small islands where life jackets and a 10 minute induction was sufficient, but it was inside a larger harbour.

Larger companies have risk management procedures to evaluate this sort of thing - you need to use it.

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RE: MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

Maybe you were probably officially "just visiting", right? Or observing. Not actually "working in the marine terminal" like as part of your regular job? I doubt that the terminal looks much like a typical ferry. Warnings are different, escape routes are different. Do you just jump overboard at the sound of one bell, or three horn blasts ? Do you look for an onboard escape capsule, or fire a flare at the next ship to pass by? How do you initiate an alarm yourself when you notice somethings wrong. How do you know if anything is wrong? Where is the safety equipment? How do you use it? Man, you just get on a plane flying over any bit of water that is very unlikely to ever crash and you get 10 min instruction on how to put on the vest and not pull the cord before you go outside. That's not really enough for someone actually in their everyday work environment. Air hostesses actually get a lot more training than what they give you.

Look. The bottom line here is that it is an offshore, industrial environment with high pressure, make and break flanges, or connections, and potentially highly inflammable and explosive liquids and vapors all arouond you. It doesn't make a rats bit of difference whether that results from drilling, petroleum production, crude loading, or fuel transfer operations. Offshore work of any kind has some of the highest injury and worst safety records of any occupation. The message needs to be "Do it safe and proper, or go home."

RE: MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

True,

The issue I missed there was what you don when you're on the mysterious marine terminal.

Then how do you get off in an emergency / what happens if you fall off.

How warm is the water?
Is there a safety boat always there?
How high is it?
Wave height?
Operated at night time?

It's not so easy unless you've got good answers to those questions

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RE: MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

Yes! Now you've got it.

The first problem is how exactly can I SAFELY get off this boat and on to the terminal or off the terminal and onto the boat. Just that in itself can be a major danger in the slightest waves and can even require some practice to get it right. I Tarzaned into the side of a boat once. The wind gust caught me and blew me back towards the structure first, then into the side of the boat as it rose up on the next wave. The deck crew grabbed me and pulled me up over the rail. It was not pleasant. I had a job to do and swinging across on the rope looked doable and more like fun than as stupid as it really was at the time. Sometimes just knowing when to do nothing will save your life. Believe you me, I didn't have the good judgement then that I have now.

If it helps ... Some marine terminals (LOOP) look exactly like production platforms with bouys strung out off and around from them.

RE: MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

Big Inch??

Why did it take me so long?

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RE: MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

Haha.

So who's tonto??

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RE: MARINE TERMINALS----TRAINING REQUIREMENT

Currently holding interviews in Dubai.

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