Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
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Installing a series of 3/16 thick carbon steel stair runners. On gates and railings, I usually weld up and then wipe them clean with a paint thinner to remove mill scale and oil, then cold spray galvanizing paint on the metal. Then finish with two oats of black oil-based paint as a cover.
For these steps though, many areas are coated already with the blue layout fluid. Is the commercial cold galvanizing paints effective over the layout fluid, or a waste of effort since there is a few micron's between the galvanizing primer and the metal? Or just accept as-is, and apply the top coats as usual? No salt spray, but outdoor exposure.
Commercially, I've seen many items coated with the Dykem Blue in the laydown yards for CT and turbine internals that will go back into the turbines, but need a short-term coating against incidental rusting. Obviously not a permanent coating, but will it foul up the regular paints if left in place?
For these steps though, many areas are coated already with the blue layout fluid. Is the commercial cold galvanizing paints effective over the layout fluid, or a waste of effort since there is a few micron's between the galvanizing primer and the metal? Or just accept as-is, and apply the top coats as usual? No salt spray, but outdoor exposure.
Commercially, I've seen many items coated with the Dykem Blue in the laydown yards for CT and turbine internals that will go back into the turbines, but need a short-term coating against incidental rusting. Obviously not a permanent coating, but will it foul up the regular paints if left in place?
RE: Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
Steve Jones
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RE: Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
RE: Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
"Remove any dirt, oil, grease or contaminants by washing with (Rustoleum) Original Krud Kutter Cleaner Degreaser or suitable cleaner and water. Rinse with fresh water and allow to dry. Remove all paint and loose rust by sanding or wire brush. Lightly sand glossy surfaces. DO NOT PRIME. Do not topcoat with an alkyd finish."
Now, the "DO NOT PRIME" in their capital letters! is certainly emphasized and very clear. "Remove all paint" is also clear. But, if a glossy coat (already painted ?) can be scuffed up sufficient to be acceptable, then don't a few microns of the Dykem (laquor ?) merely need scuffing with a wire brush?
RE: Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
RE: Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
Steve Jones
Corrosion Management Consultant
www.linkedin.com/in/drstevejones
All answers are personal opinions only and are in no way connected with any employer.
RE: Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
Good weld prep would be to remove that stuff 1" or so back from the welded joints before welding. Some electrodes handle mill scale and dirt "better" than others.
I'm guessing these are outdoor stairs, so it won't take much foot traffic to wear thru the paint and cold galvanizing and let the rust begin.
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RE: Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
Yes, I understand the reasoning for the 1 inch clear-ground margin around each weld - that will be done when work can resume.
My appreciation to all. I'll report the results when complete - when exposed after that to what I hope will be only reasonable wear and tear.
RE: Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?
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RE: Carbon Steel Stair Treads - Can I (Should I) galvanize over Dykem Blue layout fluid?