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True position of a slot
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True position of a slot

True position of a slot

(OP)


Hi

Please see attached quick sketch ,

Datum A would be one of the planes ( not shown )

Regarding the positional call out for the slot .

What would be the best way to think about / understand the basic dimension of 50mm.

It looks like a centre axis between the two radii, Although i hope i would be correct in saying Datum Feature would be the mid plane derived from the two small planes on the slot


Thanks

R

RE: True position of a slot

You are not controlling the location of the slot in the horizontal direction.

The ASME Y14.5 standards gives the exact interpretation of that condition; what do you think based on what is in the standard?

RE: True position of a slot

"What would be the best way to think about / understand the basic dimension of 50mm."

The true position of the longitudinal center of the slot (center of the geometrical theoretical geometry). By the way, the location of the slot is not defined in the direction of the 50 basic, the position tolerance you show doesn't control that.

RE: True position of a slot

(OP)
3DDave + Burunduk

Thanks for your replies ,


I was completely unsure why the 50mm basic is placed .

The position of the slot in relationship of the hole , what is the best way show this on the drawing ,

If this was two holes , yes the 50mm basic would make sense to me ,

Thanks

R

RE: True position of a slot

50 basic should be there. You need another position FCF to control the slot's location in the direction of 50 basic.

RE: True position of a slot

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See figure number something in ASME Y14.5-something.

RE: True position of a slot

(OP)
Burunduk

I understand now about the two FCF placed on to the slot .



Thanks

R

RE: True position of a slot

Quote (Rwelch9, 24 Jun 20 07:10)

It looks like a centre axis between the two radii, Although i hope i would be correct in saying Datum Feature would be the mid plane derived from the two small planes on the slot

You have not shown a datum feature symbol applied anywhere to the slot, however datum features are PHYSICAL features on your part that you can touch - datums are theoretical points, lines, and planes derived from datum features. The distinction is important, and determination/derivation of either depends little on how the basic dimensions are applied ie: to the theoretical center plane/line (though of course, one must have a valid combination of basic dimensions) and much more on how the feature itself is defined and how the datum feature symbol is applied. If the datum feature symbol were applied to the width between flats, your datum feature would be the width. If the entire slot were defined with an all-around profile tolerance and the datum feature symbol applied to the profile tolerance, the datum feature would be the entire slot as shown by Y14.5-2018 fig 7-3(f) linear extruded shape.

Quote (Burunduk, 24 Jun 20 08:17)

See figure number something in ASME Y14.5-something.

...................................or Y14.5-2018 fig 10-35

RE: True position of a slot

(OP)
chez311

I have forgot to add the datum feature symbol to the slot width , which would have been Datum C

Thanks for the reference to the 2018 version.

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