pipe material for aqueous solution
pipe material for aqueous solution
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Hi there
hope everybody is safe in this period
Please, I'd need a piece of advice from you.
I need to select a suitable pipe material for a aqueous solution containing
o chloride 1100 mg / L
o sulfate 1200 mg / L
This pipe will be utilized in an heat exchanger.
The circuit would be closed.
I have no other pieces of information.
I do think that copper C12200 is not suitable because of both elements,nor CuNi C70600
I am thinking about a solution with Stainless Steel.
Please, could anybody give me an hint concerning this topic, and maybe suggest me a suitable literature ?
Thanks in advance
hope everybody is safe in this period
Please, I'd need a piece of advice from you.
I need to select a suitable pipe material for a aqueous solution containing
o chloride 1100 mg / L
o sulfate 1200 mg / L
This pipe will be utilized in an heat exchanger.
The circuit would be closed.
I have no other pieces of information.
I do think that copper C12200 is not suitable because of both elements,nor CuNi C70600
I am thinking about a solution with Stainless Steel.
Please, could anybody give me an hint concerning this topic, and maybe suggest me a suitable literature ?
Thanks in advance
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
Is the service clean; i.e., non-fouling over time?
Corrosion data for mixtures like yours can be hard to come by. Further, contamination can have a multiplying effect on rates.
You are into some fairly expensive options so it is worth doing some testing in the actual fluids and service conditions. That, and/or find out what others in the same industry who do the same thing are using.
The Nickel Development Institute might be able to help.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
ironic metallurgist posted more information is needed.
regards
luis
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
What is the pressure, flowrate and temperature range ?
https://www.sandmeyersteel.com/images/alloy-276-sp...
MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
"Hastelloy C-22 alloy composition has many benefits that help enhance resistance to pitting, crevice corrosion, and stress corrosion cracking. It has excellent resistance to oxidizing aqueous media including wet chlorine and mixtures containing nitric acid or oxidizing acids with chlorine ions."
luis
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
But like you said the S pretty much rules out Cu and CuNi alloys. The Cl level rules out basic (304/316) SS grades.
You say sulfate, are they really sulfates, or are there other forms (sulfides) present as well?
Are there any other trace contaminates?
What material is the rest of the circuit made of?
What size of line is this (diameter and length)?
Is this for the tubes in the heat exchanger? Who is designing it? If so I presume that they will be small (1/2"-1" diameter) and thin wall (0.028"-0.065") depending on temperature, flow, and pressure.
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P.E. Metallurgy
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
Inconel 686, VDM Alloy 59, Hastelloy C-22, C-2000, C-276
Seamless of course.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
Unless this system is hot it doesn't need a Ni alloy, there are plenty of high performance SS grades that are used on seawater heat exchanger service all of the time, superaustenitic (AL-6XN, 25-6Mo), superferritic (SEC-CURE), and superduplex (Zeron100, 2507) might all be candidates.
At high temps you are moving into Ni alloy range.
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P.E. Metallurgy
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
But since the original poster has now abandoned this thread, we will never know the system temperature.
IMHO, always compare the cost of your candidate materials (superaustenitic, superferritic , and superduplex ) to C-276 NI alloy
C-276 came off patent a couple of years and the Chinese supplied tube is being priced very competitively
MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
The issue with Ti is the mechanical weakness, it requires designers that know what they are doing or you end up with a long term headache.
Yes I made a pretty good living off of replacing bad seamless tube with good welded tube. Bad HT is amazingly common, so are people trying to anneal dirty tubes.
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P.E. Metallurgy, consulting work welcomed
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
We are in a period where technical quality of alloys is noticeably declining, and it is causing problems for users who place extra demands on items such as fittings, valves, welding wire, etc. This is not just due to Far East sourcing, but the fact of the poor control of scrap going into electric remelting furnaces.
As you say, heat treatment can be a problem. Far East suppliers seem to think that the list of ingredients is equivalent to the soup, but you also need to know how to cook the soup.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
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PROVIDING MORE INFO WILL SAVE YOU SOME MONEY
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution
RE: pipe material for aqueous solution