×
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Contact US

Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!

*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here

Duplex SS ASTM 923-C vs. EN 3651-2

Duplex SS ASTM 923-C vs. EN 3651-2

Duplex SS ASTM 923-C vs. EN 3651-2

(OP)
Hello all,

we are currently working on a new specification for Duplex SS (2205) for our site in Germany.
API 938-C recommends that base metal and welds are tested to ASTM 923 Method B or C (C is the corrosion test with ferric chloride solution).
According to German regulations VdTÜV 418 the EN ISO 3651-2 Test C (sulfuric Acid and ferric sulfate) is mandatory.

The Tests use diffeent solutions and have different acceptnace criteria (cracking vs. mass loss), nevertheless both try to identify if intermetallic phases are present.

As we would rather not specify 2 corrosion tests the question is if there is experience with only using the EN ISO test to determine corrosion resistance?
do you know of a study to compare results?

Thank you for your help!

Daniel Breyer
Inspection Engineer

http://lnkd.in/dFcQA-w

RE: Duplex SS ASTM 923-C vs. EN 3651-2

Isn't method B the low temp impact?
If so then it works well also, and is much easier to conduct and repeat than the corrosion test.
There is a direct ISO version of A923, so I can't believe that they are asking for a a different test.

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
P.E. Metallurgy

RE: Duplex SS ASTM 923-C vs. EN 3651-2

(OP)
Edstainless, thank you for the hint about an iso standard.
I wasn't aware of Iso 17781. It is also introduced as a german DIN standard.
This might make the whole spec easier as we don't have to reference american standards.

There is also a new version of the VdTÜV standard. I'll have to check if it references the new iso standard.

Regarding impact testing. For some cases itis the easier options (and we'll leave the option to do that) but for thicker sections it sometimes won't identify midwall intermetallics and for some weld geometries (e.g. tube to tubesheet) impact testing isn't practical.

Daniel Breyer
Inspection Engineer

http://lnkd.in/dFcQA-w

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members! Already a Member? Login


Resources

Low-Volume Rapid Injection Molding With 3D Printed Molds
Learn methods and guidelines for using stereolithography (SLA) 3D printed molds in the injection molding process to lower costs and lead time. Discover how this hybrid manufacturing process enables on-demand mold fabrication to quickly produce small batches of thermoplastic parts. Download Now
Design for Additive Manufacturing (DfAM)
Examine how the principles of DfAM upend many of the long-standing rules around manufacturability - allowing engineers and designers to place a part’s function at the center of their design considerations. Download Now
Taking Control of Engineering Documents
This ebook covers tips for creating and managing workflows, security best practices and protection of intellectual property, Cloud vs. on-premise software solutions, CAD file management, compliance, and more. Download Now