Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
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Good day all, Recently I am reading "Piping and instrumentation diagram development" written by Moe Toghraei.
In the centrifugal pump section, it wrote "on the suction side of centrifugal pump we never ever use and enlarger, and on the discharge side of a centrifugal pump we never ever use a reducer."
Can anyone help me understand this? Any comment? Thank you!
In the centrifugal pump section, it wrote "on the suction side of centrifugal pump we never ever use and enlarger, and on the discharge side of a centrifugal pump we never ever use a reducer."
Can anyone help me understand this? Any comment? Thank you!





RE: Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
The rule of thumb about avoiding reducing on the discharge side of the pump is primarily to avoid pressure drop issues. If your pump has a 4" discharge and you immediately reduce down to 3", your velocity will be higher which correlates to higher losses; additionally valves and other components will experience significantly larger pressure drop as well.
RE: Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
RE: Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
If you've got a small line and for some reason need a pump which just happens to have a larger inlet flange, but the numbers (pressure drop, velocity, NPSH etc) all check out then what are you going to do - Not connect it just because someone in a book decided that?
Same thing on discharge.
Sure it's not "normal" or "usual", but "never ever"?? Old Moe is going a bit far.
Oh and there is no such thing as an "enlarger", there are only reducers (as per ASME B 16.9). A bit strange sometimes when you're used to thinking in terms of fluid flow, but in the piping world they don't care so they are all reducers.
Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.
RE: Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
This link shows that (if the link works, not sure):
https://books.google.com/books?id=ICONDwAAQBAJ&...
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RE: Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
You won't see it listed as "enlarger" on a piping diagram / isometric construction drawing and would get some strange looks if you tried it on site.
Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.
RE: Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it."
-Henry Ford
RE: Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
RE: Reducers and enlargers on Up/Down stream of pumps
I know, in the world of piping we only have "reducer", but in the book I (as a process engineer) used enlarger whenever I wanted to refer to usage of reducer to enlarge the pipe diameter.
By the way I am Moe Toghraei, Shahyar is my middle name.