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Creo Won't Let Me into a Group
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Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
Hello.

This is weird. Never run into this before. If I am working in a part file, sometimes I will group many features into a group to clean up the overall tree. I can easily get to all of the features in that group. But now all of a sudden, if I close that file and reopen it, I cannot move the insertion point inside the group. I am locked out of it, unless I ungroup the group. Then I can get to the features. If I ungroup the group and then regroup it, same problem. Restarting Creo has no effect.

Not sure if this has any bearing on the problem, but lately, I have been putting my computer to sleep every night instead of shutting it down. Whenever, I wake it back up, Creo has a warning message that data may have been lost.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
Working this problem further, this does not appear to be a problem in the file itself, it seems to be in Creo in general. Old files do the same thing now.
Could this be a corrupt config file?

Trying that next.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
I deleted all config file copies forcing Creo to a default config. Still same problem.

Update: Rebooted my system. No difference.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
Update. Other weird things happening now, like inability to select surfaces for copying, and edges not selecting. I think I need to do a reinstall.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

What version and build of Creo?

"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
Hi looslib!

Creo 2 M100. Been using it for years.

I put my computer to sleep overnight. When I woke it up this morning, that was when I noticed that I could not select surfaces or edges for copying. I shut down Creo and relaunched it and I got that functionality back. The selection within Groups is still messed up, however.

I think part of the problem is that Creo does not like Windows Sleep mode.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

Have you rebooted your computer?
Windows is famous for mot releasing all memory when you close an application. With Windoows NT and XPpro, I used to recommend that my Pro/E and Unigraphics users reboot EVERY night. With Windows 7 and 10, once a week is usually OK, but in some cases daily may still help.

"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

Sure it's not an old file? Previous releases did not allow inserting features inside a group. Not sure when that changed or if it's retro-active in old files.

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The Help for this program was created in Windows Help format, which depends on a feature that isn't included in this version of Windows.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
"Have you rebooted your computer?"

Yes. No effect.

"Sure it's not an old file?"


This is a file I started on about a week ago. Old files that I used Groups in (with no problems), now have the problem, too. So I'm thinking something broke in my installation.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

Try dropping back "graphics win32_gdi" in the config.pro to circumvent a possible graphics driver change. You'll need to restart Creo after the change.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
"Try dropping back "graphics win32_gdi" in the config.pro to circumvent a possible graphics driver change. You'll need to restart Creo after the change."

Hm...I have "All Options" selected, but that phrase does not exist in either the names or descriptions, for config.pro.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

Yes - you probably need to manually edit config.pro. PTC likes to hide options.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
"Yes - you probably need to manually edit config.pro. PTC likes to hide options."

I opened it in WordPad, but no such name. I must have an alternate universe version of M100! :)

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

You. Have. To. Type. It. In. Yourself.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
"You. Have. To. Type. It. In. Yourself. "

Just saw your last post, but I was so frustrated with Creo before I read it, that I did a completely new install of Creo, and the problem is now gone. Cleared up some other intermittent problems too, like not being able to copy surfaces or paths. Weird.

Thanks for all your help, everyone.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

One other comment...Even if it is a new file, did you create it from an old template/start part?
Those need updated, too!

"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
"One other comment...Even if it is a new file, did you create it from an old template/start part?
Those need updated, too!"


I tested both old existing files and brand new ones for test. They all failed.
But after the clean install, the problems went away.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

A brand new file may still use an old template/start part. Check the dates of your templates and start parts to be sure they are Creo2 saved.

Since a clean install solved the issue, you may have corrupted a file along the way that is now fixed.

"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
I must profess ignorance about templates. I never use anything other than File > New. I DO however, Save As, to start a new branch of files from existing ones in a project.
What exactly is the definition of "template" in Creo. In other programs, I see the use of templates as launching-off points, but I never use them, unless a particular program will not let me create my own startup units. Then my "template" becomes an empty file with my desired units.

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

When you select File-New, there is a line at the bottom with a check box for Use default template.
A template file has settings that your co0mpany wants to have in all files, like parameters, or certain planes, etc. There is a file, usually named startpart.prt, someplace in your Templates folder that is opened by Creo and renamed to your new file name. It does the rename in background and you don't have to do anything.

Next time you have issues, try to open a new part with the Use default template box unchecked and see what the difference is. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to experiment and create a new file now and see what the differences are so you get a better feeling for what the template file does.


I am using Creo 4 m060 and have been using Pro/E since version 2000i. Before that I used Unigraphics from UG2V3 to V18 and have used NX1, 4 and 6 between my Pro/E jobs. Started on Applicon in 1977 in school, but didn't get fulltime with CAD until 1987 with UGII V3. I am also a Windchill administrator using Windchill 11.0.

"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

RE: Creo Won't Let Me into a Group

(OP)
Got it. Thanks!

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