I've proposed a bioretention area for a project which is sized based on the runoff volume. This is in California and is based on the C3 Technical Guidance Manual. I used a void ratio for biotreatment soil and for Caltrans class 2 permeable material of 0.35. However, the County Planning Dept reviewer said the void ratio for both is 0.01 to 0.05, which is ridiculously low. I tried to find void ratios for both of these materials on line, but could find nothing. Does anyone know of a reliable data source for these two materials?
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Void Ratios for stormwater retention facilities
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Uniform (graded) stone typically has 35-40% voids. Any kind of "biotreatment soil" is going to be much less.
Peter Smart
HydroCAD Software
Peter Smart
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msquared48
Structural
Interesting in that the void ratio for pervious concrete is in the range of 30%...
Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)
Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)
We should be careful here with terminology: "Voids" or "porosity" refers to the fraction of the overall stone volume that is empty space, and is often expressed as a percentage such as 25%.
"Void ratio" is the ratio of voids to solids, so 25% porosity would be a void ratio of 25:75 or 1:3
Peter Smart
HydroCAD Software
"Void ratio" is the ratio of voids to solids, so 25% porosity would be a void ratio of 25:75 or 1:3
Peter Smart
HydroCAD Software
msquared48
Structural
30% is common in the NW for infiltration trenches filled with washed, uncrushed gravel.
Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)
Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)
Mike_Civil
Civil/Environmental
I never use a void ratio for the bio soil, and 30-40% is typical for the perm rock. If you need to cite a source, look at Contra Costa's C3 guide:
V1 is the floodable volume above the soil layer (that is, the total volume of surface storage when the facility just begins to overflow). V2 is the storage volume below the soil layer. If gravel fill is used, multiply the volume of gravel by an assumed porosity of 0.4 to obtain the subsurface volume.
V1 is the floodable volume above the soil layer (that is, the total volume of surface storage when the facility just begins to overflow). V2 is the storage volume below the soil layer. If gravel fill is used, multiply the volume of gravel by an assumed porosity of 0.4 to obtain the subsurface volume.
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