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Civil Engineering Scope of Work

Civil Engineering Scope of Work

Civil Engineering Scope of Work

Hi All,

We are a civil/structural engineering company that does mainly structural work. Our civil work generally has been limited to road alignments, storm drainage, retaining structures and earthworks. On several projects we have done, the services engineers also deal with site works that includes all underground utilities including water and sewer, fire, pumps,data etc and are responsible for coordination. This is mainly because most of the underground works have been MEP in nature. We typically help with profiles and concrete works associated with any site services.

We are now engaged on a job where the services engineers indicated that their services end about 5 feet from the building and that we should be coordinating all site services and that their engagement did not deal with site services at all. Can anyone shed some light on the typical delineation of scope of work between site services and civil engineering.

RE: Civil Engineering Scope of Work

I've encountered that, as well as to property line, and it's a matter of coordinating the 'building' work from the 'civil' work. Normally not a problem. Domestic water lines can almost go anywhere, but, sewage and stormwater sewage have to be carefully coordinated to see that inverts match.

Check your agreement with the Civil firm to see what their work is. Are they prepared to complete the work to the building connections for a fee?


RE: Civil Engineering Scope of Work

It has been standard since I've been doing civil design to design the water and sewer alignments and sizes to 5 feet from the building. Civil also usually designs lift stations and specs the pumps.
It's not difficult work, but you'll probably want to hire someone to do it until you can develop your skills.

RE: Civil Engineering Scope of Work

architectural, structural and MEP design typically end at the edge of the building and 5 feet is a common distance. Exterior improvements are handled by the site-civil engineer possibly with help from a landscape arch. That would include a site grading and drainage plan, hardscape, landscape and any connections from the building to the wet and dry utilities in the street. In some cases, you might also need to extend or widen a street or run a water or sewer line farther if the utility provider does not currently provide service to the area. note that a typical requirement for the site engineer is to set the minimum finished floor elevation of the building.

RE: Civil Engineering Scope of Work


Can anyone shed some light on the typical delineation of scope of work between site services and civil engineering.

I'm not clear what the question is, honestly. I'm accustomed to there being a "civil-site" engineer that handles essentially everything outside the building envelope. The typical scope of that task, in my experience would be:

Plans and specs -
Grading / Drainage / Stormwater
Erosion Control
Utilities (water, sewer, steam if necessary, occasional telcom vaults, rarely electrical other than placing transformer pads)
Hydrology Report

Typically not included:
Anything in the building envelope
Electrical other than placement of transformer pads and such

Typically subbed out, but often managed by site-civil:
Geotech study
Traffic study
Site lighting study

Zoning/LEED/etc is often a blend of site-civil and architect.

Hydrology, Drainage Analysis, Flood Studies, and Complex Stormwater Litigation for Atlanta and the South East - http://www.campbellcivil.com

RE: Civil Engineering Scope of Work

Civil Egrs usually end up doing the lion's share of state and local permitting too

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