Soil - Wall Friction Angle Soil - Wall Friction Angle jurtinus (Structural) (OP) 26 Jan 18 03:59 How is the soil-wall friction angle determined, rigorously? From my studies, I have been told to take is as ½ - ⅔ of the internal friction angle. But how does one get to this point. I have yet to find an explanation in any literature. Thanks:) RE: Soil - Wall Friction Angle LRJ (Civil/Environmental) 26 Jan 18 11:36 It is an interface (soil-interface material) friction angle, rather than an internal (soil-soil) friction angle. You get it in the lab from interface friction tests, e.g. shearbox or ring shear. RE: Soil - Wall Friction Angle Doctormo (Geotechnical) 27 Jan 18 16:54 There are charts for estimating various friction angles of dissimilar materials (NAVFAC, AASHTO) as it is not practical to actually test for these. Using 1/2 - 2/3 of soil phi angle for a concrete wall interface is customary but then this would not apply to a Rankine form of earth pressure analysis that is not based on wall friction, just Coulomb theories. The dissimilar material friction factors (friction angle = atan(friction factor)) are used in various sliding calculations for many materials so they tend to not be defined in the Coulomb earth pressure sections of textbooks. Google searth https://books.google.com/books?id=Ozz8jXCp_jMC&... RE: Soil - Wall Friction Angle fattdad (Geotechnical) 29 Jan 18 12:51 The log-spiral earth pressure graph in DM 7 shows adjustment factors for wall friction. In certain instances, it's not necessary to use any reduction - for example on an MSE or a cantilevered retaining wall - one with a footing that extends below the retained soil. 1/2 to 2/3rds is about right though, when the design calls for such reduction. f-d ípapß gordo ainÆt no madre flaca!