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NX12 Performance.
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NX12 Performance.

NX12 Performance.

(OP)
Has anyone noticed that NX12 seems to be slower when performing simple tasks? things like using the undo function seems to take more time than it should, even on simple models. I've just had an assembly where I performed a "show only" command on component and NX12 took an age to complete the command. I've noticed that even just opening menus isn't as quick as it used to be in earlier versions.

Cheers

Si

Best regards

Simon

NX7.5 NX8.5 NX9 NX10 NX11
NX Consultant
www.team-eng.com

RE: NX12 Performance.

Did you refile the parts? Or version up?

Ronald van den Broek
Senior Application Engineer
Winterthur Gas & Diesel Ltd
NX9 / TC10.1.2

Building new PLM environment from Scratch using NX11 / TC11

RE: NX12 Performance.

Not NX12 in particular, i have noted and grieved that NX has commands which have , over the versions , become ridiculously slow.
Drafting in particular has a number of "grinding" features, to mention a few
Note Label, takes looong time to show that dialog.
"Rapid dimensions " the dialog is not rapid.
In Sketch, ( Modeling and Drafting) editing a automatic dimension such that it becomes a driving dimension,double click, edit value+Enter, no fun.

the worst part is that i don't know what to do about it.
"Enhancement Request : please make the notes label dialog 2 seconds faster." ?
I don't think Siemens will spend much money on that enhancement.

Regards,
Tomas




Regards
Tomas

RE: NX12 Performance.

(OP)
@nutace

They are all new parts.

@toost

Yes I fully agree, some of the menu commands are just to slow to be acceptable, not sure what has gone on.

Best regards

Simon

NX7.5 NX8.5 NX9 NX10 NX11
NX Consultant
www.team-eng.com

RE: NX12 Performance.

@Tomas, these grinding operations you mention is this the sort of flickering of the buttons in the dialog box when placing dimensions?

Lars
NX12.0.1.7 native
Solid Edge ST10
Inventor

RE: NX12 Performance.

What version of 12 is having performance issue? is it the base version?

RE: NX12 Performance.

NX12.0.1.7 mp1

Lars
NX12.0.1.7 native
Solid Edge ST10
Inventor

RE: NX12 Performance.

Lars1978:
No , no flickering that i have noticed, just having to wait for NX to respond/ become ready for me to do my next move.
Example :
Editing an existing sketch dimension, - I have found that the quickest method is not "double click the dimension in the active sketch" ( double click , then that delay occurs , for every dimension to be edited,)
Instead :
when the sketch is active / edit mode, - in the part navigator select the active sketch ( !) the dimensions will then become displayed under "Details" and can be edited there.

Regards,
Tomas

RE: NX12 Performance.

If this is running a certified graphics driver, (?) I think you have a PR.
Not acceptable.

Submit an IR and let us hear what the response is.

Regards,
Tomas

RE: NX12 Performance.

I've got the K4100M quadro on my Zbook. I think that a certified one.

Lars
NX12.0.1.7 native
Solid Edge ST10
Inventor

RE: NX12 Performance.

Card is certified. Which driver are you using? The Siemens Certified one is HP NVidea 385.73 Mobile

Ronald van den Broek
Senior Application Engineer
Winterthur Gas & Diesel Ltd
NX9 / TC10.1.2

Building new PLM environment from Scratch using NX11 / TC11

RE: NX12 Performance.

Ronald,

Thnx i'll try this driver.

Lars

Lars
NX12.0.1.7 native
Solid Edge ST10
Inventor

RE: NX12 Performance.

The GTAC guys said i'd had to deinstall the MP1 of NX12.1
That means completely deinstall the NX12 and reinstall all of it....

Sounds like bogus to me. No guaranties that this will work...

Lars
NX12.0.1.7 native
Solid Edge ST10
Inventor

RE: NX12 Performance.

Done a clean install of NX12.0.1 mp2 ... still I get thes wait times as in the movie in the previous post.

What is the way to see why I get these wait times...?

Lars
NX12.0.1.7 native
Solid Edge ST10
Inventor

RE: NX12 Performance.

A maybe stupid question,
does that menu behave the same if the menu is completely outside the graphics window ?
I.e place the menu completely on top of the navigator instead of the graphics window. ( no touch between the graphics and the menu)
Same flickering ?

another stupid question, does your computer run Nvidia Optimus or have you disabled that ?
( we try to disable Optimus on all laptops if possible. We have seen strange behavior when the laptop switches between the graphics adapters.)
- Make sure that NX always runs on the Nvidia graphics and never on the "Intel Graphics ".

Regards
/ Tomas

RE: NX12 Performance.

Quote (Toost)

Make sure that NX always runs on the Nvidia graphics and never on the "Intel Graphics ".
We actually had a similar issue with our laptop workstations. After we disabled the Intel GPU on the processor (using only the Nvidia Card)this behavior was gone.

Ronald van den Broek
Senior Application Engineer
Winterthur Gas & Diesel Ltd
NX9 / TC10.1.2

Building new PLM environment from Scratch using NX11 / TC11

RE: NX12 Performance.

Tomas,

Please see the file attached. I think this does not solve my problem.

I also looked into the nvidia setting and have setup the laptop that it only uses his quadro k4100m GPU

If anybody knows someone who can look into this behaviour in depth.... it's much appreciated. Maybe it's some setting as with the antivirus etc.....



Lars
NX12.0.1.7 native
Solid Edge ST10
Inventor

RE: NX12 Performance.

Yeah that is different behavior indeed.
Check something else. The monitor where you are running NX on, is that the primary monitor? (Display 1) Do you have extra monitors attached to your laptop?
From previous versions I know that NX "doesn't like" to be running on any other monitor than the Primary.
Also, are you using the NVidea nView Desktop Manager? This is known to cause issues with NX.

Try to switch off below settings in your 3D settings for the Graphics card.


In there you will also find the Threaded Optimization. Try turning that off.

Ronald van den Broek
Senior Application Engineer
Winterthur Gas & Diesel Ltd
NX9 / TC10.1.2

Building new PLM environment from Scratch using NX11 / TC11

RE: NX12 Performance.

@NutAce, we have certified Dell laptops that on NX 11 would run just fine, but with NX 12 we sit and wait about 20 seconds while the spinner runs before the command comes up. It seems like it is updating the display (changing part emphasis) for the command. Do you think disabling the the Intel GPU on the processor help with this issue or is it something else? All other settings seem to be the same as you show above?

NX 11.0.1.11 Windows 10

RE: NX12 Performance.

I like to work fast with CAD software and every delay in UI response is really annoying.
We recently upgraded from NX11 to NX12 and apart from performance problems I am discovering also other issues like:

* Sketching was never the fastest, but now rapid dimension is even slower.
* Artifacts when rotating in graphic window, blue/yellow geometry. Probably caused by new "Split window" / Tabs layout feature. Somehow 3D performance is degraded. Visualisation settings are same as in NX11, worked on same assembly (upgrade to NX12) and only in NX12 I have this issue. In NX11 for this to appear the assembly had to be really big.
* Issues with selecting edges, in big/bigger assemblies, like they are not detected or hidden by geometry in front, i dont recall having this in NX11 so often. Viewing from different angle or zooming in helps.
* Sometimes, fortunately not often, NX freezes for 5-10 sec for no reason.

I understand the need to give some new features in every newer version of software, but sometimes the changes are somewhat strange and of poor "quality".
I found a bit annoying UI change in "assembly load options" where instead of having 2 checkboxes for "Partial Loading" and "Lightweight Representations" now we got a list with 4 combination of both, with list box so small that the option is not fully visible, I get "Partially Load - Lightw".

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