When to Hire (small structural firm)
When to Hire (small structural firm)
(OP)
I'm struggling with making the decision to hire my first engineer employee. I have been "out on my own" for about 7 years, and I have been swamped with work over the last two years. It is to the point where I have not been able to seek new clients for over two years, and I realize that is a bad thing. I know I need help, but I get intimidated every time I calculate the expense of adding an employee. Adding an engineer will bring my expenses higher than my revenue has ever been. I have enough cash on hand to handle the added expense for about a year. My key clients are growing fast with good work, but I will not be able to keep up with them without help.
For those that have been in a similar situation, do you have any feedback for me about my position? I would certainly feel better if my current revenue exceeded what my expenses with the employee will be. Am I trying to hire too soon? What revenue vs. expense position do other small firms hire in?
Thanks
For those that have been in a similar situation, do you have any feedback for me about my position? I would certainly feel better if my current revenue exceeded what my expenses with the employee will be. Am I trying to hire too soon? What revenue vs. expense position do other small firms hire in?
Thanks
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
I am unsure why you say your revenue will not meet expenses, this sounds like you have underbid jobs. Very often if you underbid work you will get a whole pile of work that does not provide enough revenue to keep the doors open. If you could not hand your work to a competitor, to get it done, then you have not bid enough.
B.E.
You are judged not by what you know, but by what you can do.
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
Thanks again.
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
In short, BEFORE the clients you have get pissed, assuming you want to stay in business.
Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
""To clarify, my projected yearly expenses, with the new employee, exceed my previous yearly revenue.""
With two of you there, you should be able to knock that workload out in 6 months. Which should leave you available for more work and income.
How does that project?
B.E.
You are judged not by what you know, but by what you can do.
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
When I started my second business, I decided to be a bit smarter. I only have people in the business with whom I've worked long term. I have a consortium of professional associates. None of them are employees. All are independent contractors and are free to work on their own projects whenever they choose. The key is that I have developed a good reputation and have the capability to keep all of them busy most of the time, if they so choose to work on these projects. Because I split the revenue very equitably with them (depending on their level in the organization, the minimum they get is 67% of the revenue they generate and collect), they are usually willing to work on the consortium projects before going out to try to generate their own.
The model has worked very well for over 10 years. I'm happy, even though I could probably make more money if I had employees and paid them by salary. I have ZERO personnel issues!! Worth the potential loss in profit! They're happy. All of them make more money than they would make if they were employees of a conventional engineering firm. I do cover things like professional liability insurance; however, most of them have their own as well. Minor expense to them relative to income and they have an additional safety net. They are responsible for their own health insurance, as am I. I am also not an employee of the organization and work as an independent contractor.
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
There is a lot to be said for the independent contractor model for a start up. In fact that is how I work now. I do contract design work for customers and get a 1099 at the end of the year.
B.E.
You are judged not by what you know, but by what you can do.
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
Ron: Thank you for your input. The issue of being happy having employees is something I have thought hard about, and I have heard others express displeasure with having employees. I have thought about working with independent contractors, but there are a few things I don't understand with that model:
Who seals the drawings? Do you work close enough with them on the project to seal it yourself, or do they seal it?
Do they work directly with your clients? It seems it would make things difficult if you had to be in the middle all the time.
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
That's how I got in this business.
My 0.02.
Hydrology, Drainage Analysis, Flood Studies, and Complex Stormwater Litigation for Atlanta and the South East - http://www.campbellcivil.com
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
Also consider checking into engineers that are currently stay at home moms or dads. They might want a few hours a week of work they can do when it fits their schedule - they still get to stay home with their children but keep their skills sharp and bring in a few extra dollars.
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
I have also come across some companies that are underbidding so much that we could use them and still make a nice profit. Some aren't even charging enough to keep the lights on. Would rather flip burgers than do that.
B+W Engineering and Design | Los Angeles Civil Engineer and Structural Engineer http://bwengr.com
RE: When to Hire (small structural firm)
....I cringe every time I see "bidding" and engineering firms mentioned in the same sentence!