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cervantes (Mechanical)

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1 Jul 14 09:28

hi all,

i am wondering about physics of this situation

we have 3 screws: DIN 912 M6x30, 8.8 zinc, 10.9 zinc and 12.9 black
we are fastening them to steel high nut (around 15 mm height) thru a steel plate

now the results are:
1) 8.8 zinc screw - bolt is broken around 18 Nm, thread in nut and screw thread are ok
2) 10.9 zinc screw - nut thread is damaged @ around 21 Nm, screw thread is ok
3) 12.9 black screw - everything is ok at 30 Nm

different results at different classes, however why 12.9 didn't destroyed nut thread?.... the only reason I find here is an external diameter of screw which was around 0.1 higher than other classes (5,93 comparing to 5,83)

thanks for useful tips

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cervantes (Mechanical) · Answer 1 · 2014-07-01 09:32:41

one more thing: consider experiment environment at the same level (same fricition etc.)

CoryPad (Materials) · Answer 2 · 2014-07-01 12:48:08

You can't assume friction is the same. Perhaps the 10.9 screw had lower friction and developed higher force which damaged the internal thread.

ornerynorsk (Industrial) · Answer 3 · 2014-07-01 13:44:51

Frictional properties between zinc electroplate and black oxide are very different.

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