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NICET III OR NICET IV OR EF LICENSE OR PE LICENSE --ALL SIGN OR STAMP PLANS? READ AND COMMENT..

NICET III OR NICET IV OR EF LICENSE OR PE LICENSE --ALL SIGN OR STAMP PLANS? READ AND COMMENT..

NICET III OR NICET IV OR EF LICENSE OR PE LICENSE --ALL SIGN OR STAMP PLANS? READ AND COMMENT..

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Hello everyone,

i have read some of the posts and comments regarding of who can and who cannot stamp fire alarm drawings and i have decided to talk a little about it by opening a new thread..

my comment is base on the STATE OF FLORIDA, i cant comment regarding any other states.

i am certified NICET LEVEL III, 20 years of safety system experience, AUTOCAD operator and 3 weeks ago i PASSED my EF license test.

the process in florida is simple and it has flaws..

any autocad operator draws the fire plans, a project manager or salesman tell the cad operator what to put on the drawings. In most of the companies i worked for, neither the project manager or the salesman have a nicet certification or an EF license.. the EF licensed individual can only stamp projects up to $5000 value, nicet certified technicians can not stamp drawings at all.

so here it is how it happens:

1.- project manager, salesman design the project
2.- autocad operator puts everything on cad
3.- if drawing is less than $5000 then EF licensed individual stamps the plans if it is more, then a PE license individual stamp the drawings.
4.- (the funny and last step) the stamped drawings are taken to the city to be approved or disapproved by a plans reviewer who is most of the time a retired firefighter and someone who has never worked as a fire alarm technician, who is not a NICET certified, who is not a EF certified or PE certified But this person tells everyone what is wrong with the drawings and forces everyone to make changes according to his point of view or your drawings WILL NOT BE APPROVED.

So in other words..take your fight to the city ( or county)..

as you can see IT DOES NOT MATTERS WHO STAMPS THE DRAWINGS at the end they will be approved by someone who is less qualified than everyone else who try, wants, or deserves to stamp them.

now what i see is the most PE license holders do not want others to stamp not because of the tremendous calculations required on a fire alarm design ( being sarcastic ) but because they lose money if someone else stamps the plans.

note: some plans reviewers are NICET Certified.. 99.9999 are not EF license holders and 100% are not PE certified

NICET IV should be allowed to stamps drawings up to $20k projects (small projects), EF should stamp up to $50k and from $50k up PE will stamp. Anyway NICET CERTIFIcaTION does not gives you the right to operate a fire alarm business in the state of florida.

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