Tilt-Up Failure During Tornado
Tilt-Up Failure During Tornado
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I was looking at something else and ran into this. Maybe it's been mentioned in this Forum already. It's a pretty well thought out article, but I guess I disagree with the whole premise. I doubt tilt-up is more likely to fail than other building systems, but when it does, it's pretty deadly.
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I'm thinking that the apparent success of interior structures in saving lives in nearby large span buildings probably had more to do with their interior location, away from falling tilt-up panels, than with being made of concrete block, or any other material.
I should note that wind-related changes to the building code in South Florida have not noticeably affected the rate of new construction, and a lot of new construction is tilt-ups.
As for wind-resistant construction, I wonder how big an increment in construction cost would accrue if the code required the walls to stand in the absence of a roof?
Or if the code just required resistance to say 150 mph winds, or 200 mph winds, or X00 mph winds, how many fewer people would die in tornadoes, and how much would building costs increase? That seems like a logical problem to pose to an engineering/ actuarial/ econometric team, say at a university, instead of just declaring that tornado resistant buildings are too expensive or technically impossible to achieve. There must be enough historical data available to construct at least a crude parametric model.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
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I didn't notice the age of the structure, but certainly here on the west coast, the design and detailing of the roof to wall connection and the uplift requirement for the roof joists has evolved substantially, particularly since Northridge 1994 and several inland empire wind events. Those two items caused some grumblings in the community but I don't think they added significantly to the completed costs of the structure although I am sure they added significantly to the quality of the structure. Definitely not F5 proof though.
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Whenever I get to choose, I go with plain old wide flange shapes. I justify this, when asked, that the building will be easier to remodel in the future. But I guess most owners figure that they'll sell the building before that ever is a consideration.
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There apparently were 7 deaths there. I think tilt up is a good concept - just need to have a redundant system of stability beyond light gage metal decking.
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Agree with JAE, a more reliable method of transferring the horizontal loads in the roof plane would help in maintaining structural stability. One way of improving life safety in these buildings would be to make the weak link uplift of the roof sheeting, so venting can occur and protect the structure. But then you would have people injured by flying roof sheets....
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Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
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I think that lesson has been applied here in SoFla. Many of the newer tiltups are rather ornate, with panels shaped sort of like sheet piles, on a much larger scale, so the resulting walls are grossly corrugated, rather than completely planar. I have not studied the details, so I don't know if the panels themselves have any great depth, or e.g. if they use lap joints instead of butt joints or some other thing entirely, but the resulting buildings are distinctive.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
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""like older buildings used to use horizontal trusses around the perimeter of the building"...which is done in most buildings in Australia. The roofing is not considered as a diaphragm here."
Am I understanding you correctly that the metal deck would not be utilized as a diaphragm in AU? Are horizontal trusses, as mentioned, the norm for big box buildings?
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Yup. Having been raised in Kansas, I've given tornado safety a LOT of thought over the years. In a big building, the shelving is a good option assuming the stuff surrounding that spot is not going to beat you up [stay away from the gardening tools] or smash you [pallets of sand/cement above your refuge]. Interior 'buildings' are the best - the breakroom and/or bathrooms are usually made of concrete blocks; building-inside-a-building. Another overlooked 'building' are the big walk-in* coolers and freezers. Other than the safety-glass
doors, they are doublewalled steel, and typically of steel internal construction. Come a tornado, I'll be heading for the back of a freezer. Barring that, the bottom shelf in the clothing department, well away from exterior walls.
* some 'walk-ins' are big enough to drive a forklift inside and allow it to turn sideways. BIG steel building-in-a-building.
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