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Updation

Updation

(OP)
Updations is quite commonly used by my colleagues from India/Pakistan. I know they meant the adverb for updates. I am just wondering what other sion/tion words are being used as alternatives to the proper adverbs.

RE: Updation

a google for "updation" revealed ...

creation, deletion as similar forms (ie -tion).

apparently (not unsurprisingly to me) the word "updation" isn't in "any" english dictionary.

Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati

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Create and Creations...
Perturb and perturbations...
Manipulate and manipulations...

Logical assumption for the extension I guess. Isn't the English language and its exceptions to the "rules" great?

Mike McCann
MMC Engineering

RE: Updation

If we use updations enough it will get added to the dictionary. I kind of like it.

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==> Updations is quite commonly used by my colleagues from India/Pakistan. I know they meant the adverb for updates.
Actually, updation is not an adverb, but is a reasonable noun form of the verb 'to update', especially if one is ESL. msquared48 has provided additional examples as well. In fact, there are scores of verbs that end in -ate which have a normal noun form ending in -ation.

The reverse happens as well. I'm sure we're all familiar with the noun 'conversation'. More and more, I hear people use the verb 'to conversate'.

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I doubt that 'updation' will ever gain wide acceptance as a noun, because the word 'update' is both a verb and a noun.

I haven't heard 'conversate'. It is an unnecessary version of 'converse'.

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Turning nouns into verbs is a common Americanism. The converse seems less common.

- Steve

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==> Turning nouns into verbs is a common Americanism.
I didn't realize that Shakespeare was an American.

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Shakespeare wasn't an American, he spelt realise as a Englishman.
As for updation, just another bastardisation of the English language.

It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)

RE: Updation

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Turning nouns into verbs is a common Americanism.

As someone who has seen several blueprints using "unistrut" as a verb, I agree.

"Unistrut at assembly"

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==> Shakespeare wasn't an American, he spelt realise as a Englishman.
No, he wasn't American, but he is credited with creating roughly 2000 new words by changing parts of speech. Overwhelmingly, most of those new words resulted from changing nouns into verbs.

==> I haven't heard 'conversate'. It is an unnecessary version of 'converse'.
Agreed, it is unnecessary. However, that has never stopped anyone from creating new words. Such is the life of a living language.

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As a circle of light increases so does the circumference of darkness around it. - Albert Einstein

RE: Updation

Be sure to get yourself properly orientated before you conversate...it is supposably better that way.

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read this one today ... "The complete upgradation of the 125 aircraft..." .. sorry it just looks wrong; why not something like "the upgrade of the 125 aircraft was completed ..." or is that passive ?

Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati

RE: Updation

Yes, "The upgrade of the 125 aircraft was completed" is passive, but passive voice may be appropriate in the overall context. However, you can't tell whether "The complete upgradation of the 125 aircraft ..." is passive or not without knowing the verb.
Passive: The complete upgradation of the 125 aircraft was completed ...
Active: The complete upgradation of the 125 aircraft resulted in ...

I would use the gerund form and say, "The upgrading of the 125 aircraft ...".

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RE: Updation

Is it upgradation as opposed to degradation?

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Is it upgradation when you complete your undergrad and start grad school? clown

RE: Updation

Must switch to a lower class of newspaper after having just having read "effectuating" in the business pages of my usual.

- Steve

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Stuff like "upgradation" is an attempt by the lazy to sound literate. They do not even know they have failed.

Not to hijack, but our local TV newspeople have taken to saying "busted" instead of broken, burst, etc. But then they're the journalism majors, not me :)

Regards,

Mike

RE: Updation

(OP)
upgradation actually appears in some online dictionaries

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/upgradation - updation appears in this one too
http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictio...
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/englis...

This one is quite fun: it has words in common use in India that don't exist anywhere else.
http://www.vsubhash.com/Dictionary_Of_Indian_Engli...
It has got words like prepone - to reschedule an event ahead of what was originally planned.

RE: Updation

Oh, I like prepone. I'm going to use it today somehow!!

Best to you,

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RE: Updation

(OP)
I like prepone too - there were a lot of occasions when I could have used it.

RE: Updation

Where I work, the act of designing mounts for shipboard equipment is referred to as "foundating," or the equipment has been "foundated," a corruption of foundation.

RE: Updation

Prebone?

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