ball stud parts availability
ball stud parts availability
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Folks,
I have a bus that uses an IFS steer axle provided by one of the major drivetrain tier suppliers. I'd rather not name the company since I am trying to convince them to support the product. I thought I'd solicit the opinion of this board. The axle is 16000 lb GAWR, it uses unequal length a-arms with a 60mm upper ball stud and a 80mm lower ball stud. The ball studs are threaded into the control arms. The problem is that the original manufacturer of the ball stud, and the entire axle assembly, was a European company that has gone bankrupt. The American company rebranded the European suspension system and sold and supported in under their name. The last units were sold in 2009. The American company has since restructured it's operations and streamlined it's product line and no longer supports this IFS system. Convincing them to find a second source supplier for the ball stud is probably hopeless. Late model buses will be grounded. The ball studs appear to be forged. The upper stud uses a composite liner, the lower stud appears to be steel on steel (housing to ball). What are your engineering thoughts on remanufacturing/refurbishing/rebuilding ball studs? What are your thoughts on having parts re-produced? Any other solutions or comments are much appreciated.
I have a bus that uses an IFS steer axle provided by one of the major drivetrain tier suppliers. I'd rather not name the company since I am trying to convince them to support the product. I thought I'd solicit the opinion of this board. The axle is 16000 lb GAWR, it uses unequal length a-arms with a 60mm upper ball stud and a 80mm lower ball stud. The ball studs are threaded into the control arms. The problem is that the original manufacturer of the ball stud, and the entire axle assembly, was a European company that has gone bankrupt. The American company rebranded the European suspension system and sold and supported in under their name. The last units were sold in 2009. The American company has since restructured it's operations and streamlined it's product line and no longer supports this IFS system. Convincing them to find a second source supplier for the ball stud is probably hopeless. Late model buses will be grounded. The ball studs appear to be forged. The upper stud uses a composite liner, the lower stud appears to be steel on steel (housing to ball). What are your engineering thoughts on remanufacturing/refurbishing/rebuilding ball studs? What are your thoughts on having parts re-produced? Any other solutions or comments are much appreciated.
RE: ball stud parts availability
RE: ball stud parts availability
As far as rebuilding ball studs; I would not try to do it.
I agree with Cory that it is not a big deal to order a short run of ball studs from someone in the EU or US.
RE: ball stud parts availability
The ball joints exhibit rapid wear due to prematurely cracked and deteriorated boots. We're addressing that problem too. I got a bit of good news from the manufacturer today - looks like they will make a run of parts for us. You can be sure I'll be pestering them for drawings, spec's, and whatever digital representations they have (g-code, etc). Thanks.
RE: ball stud parts availability
If you did not have a facility to swage the socket part under the ball, maybe a two part socket that screws together or is held together by a third part being a sleeve that fits over it.
Rubber lip seals or O rings might work as seals along with regular greasing just like we used to do..
Do they make spherical joints like typically used on race cars that might be big enough and strong enough?
Regards
Pat
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RE: ball stud parts availability
RE: ball stud parts availability