Age Effects On Performance Curve
Age Effects On Performance Curve
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In general, how would you expect age to affect the performance curve of a centrifugal pump? In order to perform bounding calculations which encompass future wear on a pump, I have typically assumed the curve to degrade a certain percent by head. In other words, for a given GPM value, I multiply the associated TDH value by a fixed percentage, and the curve shifts downward and "flattens out" somewhat. However, the curve could also be reduced by flow in a similar manner in order to simulate age degradation. That is, for a given TDH value, the GPM value could be reduced and the curve would shift to the left and "straighten up".
Are either of these methods reasonable simulations of normal pump wear over time?
Are either of these methods reasonable simulations of normal pump wear over time?





RE: Age Effects On Performance Curve
Honestly, I do not know of whether you can do this.
The only thing I know is that pump manufacturers are the ones that generate the pump curve based on running this pump using water at a given base temp,e.g. 20deg C, at different flow rates. Then the pump curve, H vs Q, is then generated.
Why don't you carry out similar test since, I presume, the pump is still in service by testing it for different flow rates starting from (zero) 0GPM to max. and checking whether the pump will deliver the corresponding pump head at the discharge nozzle as shown in the pump curve.
There are several questions that come to mind on reading your thread.
1. Why do you want to do this?
2. Has the pump been run to its "run-pout point"?
3. Is the pump not generating the max. head given in by the pump curve?
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It seems like this could reasonably be modeled by adding in parallel with the existing system a high-resistance parallel (bypass) path. The flow resistance of that parallel path decreases with age.
Construct the associated pump curve as follows:
For each dp: determine flow in imaginary bypass path.
The actual (aged pump) output flow for that dp will be the ideal pump output flow for that dp minus the bypass flow for that dp.
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However, I work in the nuclear industry, and when we evaluate system performance, we are required to take into account the potential future effects of performance degradation due to age on our safety-related pumps. Such a phenomenon will probably never be seen in the field due to preventive maintenance activities and in-service testing and trending, but we have to account for it in the design basis nonetheless.
With that said, I think I may have answered my own question through a little research, so I'll share: According to Karassik's "Engineer's Guide To Centrifugal Pumps", Pages 51-52, "the major potential cause of any reduction in capacity from the original condition...is the wear at the wearing rings, in other words the increased leakage through the increased clearances at these rings. The effect of an increased leakage on the pump head-capacity curve is...the net capacity of a pump at any given head is reduced by the increase in leakage." In other words, this says that effects of wear ring reduction over time are best accounted for by degrading the pump curve by flow.
Degrading a pump curve by flow is more physically realistic than by TDH. However, is degrading or adjusting a curve by flow necessarily more *conservative* than degrading a curve by TDH? Well, that depends entirely on the shape of the curve and where the pump normally wants to run. For a flat curve, or flat regions of a curve, it is probably less conservative to adjust by flow. For a steep curve, it may be more conservative to adjust by flow. It depends.
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Incidentally, this exact method can be used to accurately model the performance of a roots type positive displacement air blower, if the compressible flow behavior is properly modeled.
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A lot of crazy things happen to the curves of older pumps like bumps in the curves at certain flows. This is typical of the conditions the pumps are in and how they fall off their manufacturers curves. Predicting the performance of a pump that is way of BEP becomes a field exercise but your use of the curve will still give you a good idea what to expect.
I hope I helped...
Bob
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Assume for the moment for simplicity that flow error as a function of dp is constant. i.e. constant bypass flow regardless of dp. Then the shape of the resulting corrected curve would have a much higher degradation when expressed as percent-hd for a given flow when at the high flow than at the low flow, simply due to the shape/slope of the curve.
Now return to the more accurate model where bypass flow increases with dp (flow error for given dp). Even though the flow error for a given dp is lower at low heads (high flow), it may show up as a higher error for a given flow expressed as percent-head... again simply due to the shape of the curve.
Once again I may not have understood your point correctly. If so I apologize.
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They are generally connected with blade and vane flow incidence angles. Tests of many NACA airfoil profiles show that they mostly stall (lose lift) in the 12 to 18 degree incidence angle range. This is why near 60% rated flow has
been marked as "no man's land" in many papers dealing with centrifugal pump flow instabilities. Good hunting!
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If you look at the flow error for each dp (reading horizontally), does the highest flow error occur at high dp values (consistent with my proposed model) or low dp values (not consistent)?
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Axial hydraulic thrust curves are routinely obtained during engineering tests and early unit production tests of new designs for zero leakage, vertical, water-cooled pumps employing fluid film radial and thrust bearings. Two ways of measuring thrust are used. In the first, a special top closure assembly is installed having a threaded rod that screws into tapped threads in the top of the rotor shaft with rolling element bearings supporting the upper ends of the rod. Strain gages are placed on the rod to measure strain which is calibrated to force. The rotor has to be lifted off the thrust bearing (usually one-half the endplay clearance). The pump is run at normal cold water operating conditions over its entire flow range to provide a static thrust load vs flow plot. The second method uses a special balance piston installed as the top closure assembly and a measured pressure times piston area gives the force to balance the rotor shaft. This latter method enables dynamic axial thrust to be determined during startups and speed changes as well as steady state static thrust.
Radial hydraulic thrust measurement is a more difficult problem and is rarely done. Pressure transducers in the pump casing walls have been used but I don't know the detailed placements.
For conventional pumps driven by air cooled motors, the accessible pump or motor shaft either side of the coupling could probably be used for strain gage measurements of axial thrust and possibly also radial thrust. This is a worthwhile enterprise if you're dealing with relatively high specific speed pumps and need to know the pump hydraulic stability characteristics. It is useful to normalize hydraulic thrust, head and flow data to best efficiency flowrate and overplot the head-flow and thrust-flow curves. The relative slopes sometimes reveal unequal flow distributions in the hub to shroud plane of the impeller which can lead to premature runout of some flow streamtubes causing reverse flow through part of the impeller channel.
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More seal ring clearance will degrade head, look at any pump curve as the head drops the capacity increases. This however is not good for your pump, recirculation damages.
Pumper
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Until reading this thread, I hadn't thought much about these observations in a long time. Most of these installations had relatively unfavorable suction and discharge piping configurations by modern standards (these were already very old pump installations many years ago), but the wear ring clearances were kept in fairly good order. I suspect that keeping leakage at the rings reasonable was probably responsible for keeping the pump performance in good order. The power consumption was not measured precisely, but motor amperage draws simply remained within very reasonable bounds.
In summary, I suspect that keeping wear ring clearances in good order may fairly well minimize performance degradation over an extended service life.