Notched Glulam Header Repair
Notched Glulam Header Repair
(OP)
Suggestions as to structurally repair a garage door glulam header18'-3" clear span (3.5"W X 13"H x-section). Owner cut a notch 4"W X 3"H at the center of the span, so that the garage door opener could attach straight in line with the garage door.
I have thought about installing a 4"X4" column in the notch and anchoring to the glulam header and to the floor, effectively now having two 8' spans and replacing the 16' garage door with two 8' wide doors.
I have thought about installing a 4"X4" column in the notch and anchoring to the glulam header and to the floor, effectively now having two 8' spans and replacing the 16' garage door with two 8' wide doors.
RE: Notched Glulam Header Repair
RE: Notched Glulam Header Repair
Without knowing the loads and doing the calcs, the beam might still be OK?? Check it.
Possible sister joists or steel plates may solve the problem.
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If it is a Glulam beam, and not a Parallam, the section is probably more like 3.125 X 13.5, which seems small for the span to me. It may be lightly loaded as Mike suggested, but the remaining section depth pf 9.5 to 10.5", depending on the depth makes it even less likely to be adequate.
Arfa1, is there any way you can post a section on this here?
Is the beam currently shored? How long has it been this way?
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
Motto: KISS
Motivation: Don't ask
RE: Notched Glulam Header Repair
In that the dimensions you have mentioned in your first post are a mix of the two, you need to verify the type of beam here. A parallam will not be quite as critical as a glulam as there are no tension lams in a Parallam.
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
Motto: KISS
Motivation: Don't ask
RE: Notched Glulam Header Repair
Got no wife, no worries about ramming column.
Light load (location is Phoenix, ie: no snow, no mechanical).
It is the Tension side that's notched. Residence built 1985. No shoring at damage point. Unknown how long in this condition. Re-measured, I came up with 3.125" X 13.0". We have a Glulam, not Parallam
I took a photo and will see if it will attach to this post.
Regards,
Arfa1
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If needed, I would strongly suggest installing a steel channel section at each side of the remaining section, as deep as you can get it, and stitch-bolt them together. I do not think sistering on additional glulams to each side will be sufficient, but you can check.
Oh, and when you are done, castrate whomever did this.
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
Motto: KISS
Motivation: Don't ask
RE: Notched Glulam Header Repair
But with out knowing how it is framed and expected loads - no one can give you an intelligent answer. That beam might still be OK??
Sistering the joist is a possibility.
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and I'll have y'all know that husband hits the garage sides more than I ever have. so there.
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I made the first suggestion. My fault. Sorry. There are many fine lady engineers out there. I almost married one.
But with a blonde wife, a blonde daughter and two blond grand daughters - I have had my share of repairing or fixing anything and everything.
Nothing against blonds - obviously I LOVE blondes - but this group of lovely ladies could break a bowling ball or wreck a bomb shelter. BELIEVE ME.
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Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
Motto: KISS
Motivation: Don't ask
RE: Notched Glulam Header Repair
It has been over 30 years since I was sitting in a structures class and all reference books have long turned to dust - so I was looking into Rosboro's "elementary" online Glulam Tech Guide and using their assumptions to get some basic allowables for 18'3" and 9'3" headers. The effective depth header now that it has been cut is approx. 9"-10". Therefore not acceptable for 18' span, but more than adequate for 9' span.
Mike, yes - am looking at making the header safe now, and in the future if/when home is sold - to be an obviously approvable solution to home inspector (or whomever).
To this end, it seemed column is simplest, low cost, no question as to safety and acceptable load and no engineering required. (although I am a P.E., I have no experience with structures). Rather than attempt to sister or stitch another beam - creating questions as to suitability, strength, sufficiency. ecetera.
Two 8' garage doors is a hastle (a given) but an acceptable one. Just looking to solve this problem, and move on to the next one (they seem to come more often these days)
Am I reading this right, or is there a more simpler elegant solution.
Regards.
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RE: Notched Glulam Header Repair
Two garage doors and openers will easily run over $1000 - maybe $2000.
Do what has been suggested:
Sister the joist or
Install side plates or
whatever your structural engineer says to do. It will be cheaper, safer and more salable. Believe me.
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Regards.
RE: Notched Glulam Header Repair