PTC Prime
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Any experience / thoughts with the new Prime software from PTC? Does it install without killing MC15?
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I have built up a pretty impressive library of good past work that even Mathcad 13 won't play with nicely anymore. For example, somewhere along the way they changed the way vectors work. w[m, where the [ makes m a subscript vector, is in many of my files, and 13 doesn't know what it means.
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However, note that MCPrime is intended for NEW users, because it does not yet have the full suite of MC capabilities, although it supposedly has some features not currently found on MC15. The expectation is that MCPrime version 2 or 3 will have a complete MC feature set.
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MathCAD Prime will read MathCAD v15 files, and v15 files only. You first have to convert ALL of your documents to v15 and then you can convert them to Prime. That's why PTC is allowing v15 and Prime to coexist on the same machine. I'm still trying to figure out the flex licensing, though. I haven't tested if we need both license files running or if v15 will run using a Prime license.
And, as IRstuff mentioned, Prime does not yet have all the functionality of v15. Depending on how complex your sheets are and what functions you use, you may want to stay on your current version of MathCAD and skip Prime v1.
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Since MCPrime is not expected attain MC15's full functionality for at least 1 major release, it's likely that MC15 would upgrade to MC16 and possibly MC17 before it's discontinued. That said, there are still plenty of people still using MC11
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As discussed in the PTC Mathcad user forums, MC Prime will probably not achieve full functional equivalence to MC14/15 until version 2 or 3.
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> Plots, while limited to 2D, have been completely revised
> Given-Find solve block structures have been completely revised
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Anyways, for simple calculations, there would be complete transparency with MC Prime, i.e., open a worksheet, and type in a calculation as always. Units support, substitutions, etc. are the same.
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a) It made a complete mess of the formatting of an MC15 file I imported. I assume because prime has its own default margins. You cannot import and go. It took quite a lot of effort to tidy up a pretty basic 7 page MC15 file.
b) The green guide bars seem to have disappeared. Tabing around is not the same and is much slower than MC15.
c) The ribbon bars are a complete waste of screen space, especially for anybody using a laptop.
I could go on but its is too frustrating. None of the old MC querks have been fixed. Ok, there is a grid but not much else. The MS Word / Excel type split screen to allow modification of data at the start of the calc to be viewed at the same time as results at the end has not been added.
I will be staying with MC15.
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Maybe so, but what are are experienced users paying for. We have had several years paying for very little new development under Mathsoft. Not much of practical benefit to every day users has been added since PTC took over. Even you say you prefer v11. (I could not disagree). If the intent is that experienced users should carry on using MC then it would appear that Prime will of no benefit for another two years until it catches up.
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PTC is obviously aware of the limitations and lackings in MC Prime, as indicated in their comparison charts of MC Prime and MC15. However, since they are both addressing the same market, one must eventually cease and the other continue on; it's just not going to happen for a couple of years.
I'm assuming that MC15's days are numbered, simply because its legacy code apparently is too difficult to modify, as exemplified by lack of progress in the the plotting and graphing areas.
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According to the PTC webstore, an electronic download for an upgrade from v14 is $85, which might be a reasonably cheap date:
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Note that it comes M15 M005, almost like a double date
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If you choose the upgrade from V14.0 it is $85 but, PTC forces you to add $240 for PTC Global Maintenance Program for Mathcad, total of $325.
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Is that the latest?
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Mathcad 15.0 (M005 [MC15_M005_20101105])
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