SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
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Anyone here been involved in SatCom transceiver design in the recent past. Looking for some answers and guidance on receiver technology for processing satellite signals in the 7.2-8.4 gHz band for on the move vehicles.
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RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
Unless your vehicles are going a substantial fraction of 7km/s, your vehicles would appear to be stationary relative to the satellite. GPS receivers work in planes going Mach 1+, albeit at lower frequency.
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RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
Make friends with the person in charge of the antenna system (including choice of cables).
RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
The major concern on talking with these geosynchronous satellites is that if you hit a bump in your vehicle, or you change direction, your antenna can't point towards the next satellite 2 degrees in angle away from the one you're targeting.
If you point towards the other satellite, you need to drop your Tx power X dB. It's very challenging to keep pointed properly to not interfere with neighboring satellites.
I'm looking for someone who's been involved in the design and processing of SatCom on the move systems. Also if someone has worked on ground based SatCom equipment too.
RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
Are you active Military VE1BLL?
RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
One technology to investigate is Luneberg Lens antenna systems. DTV downlink (receive) antennas can be installed on aircraft as they're about four or five inches thick. They use four dielectric hemispheres mounted on a groundplane. The entire assembly rotates in azimuth, and little feeds on rotating bails move up and down for elevation. Other than e-steerable arrays, it's the lowest profile technology I've seen.
I wonder if the FCC (or equivalent) has any requirements for satellite uplink from a moving platform? I assume that one would not be permitted to 'give it a go' without some strict regulatory supervision.
RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
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RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
Our requirements needs a large aperture, so phased arrays is the gameplan. There are other mechanical and half Mechanical & half Phased Array solutions too.
I looked at the viasat Yonder link, seems it's a Rx antenna systems only, and needs onboard internet link to upload.
RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
Ku-band uplink from aircraft is a fully-solved problem (Yonder and perhaps others). But I'm not so sure about ground vehicles. Aircraft have very good on-board navigation systems, and they don't bounce around quite as much as trucks. It's not something I've followed.
Inmarsat BGAN has much less requirement for tight uplink beam aiming control and is thus "easier" in most respects than commercial ku-band birds. 432 kbps is a basic rate (other options available).
If someone is getting you involved in a bottom-up system design (as hinted by your most-recent post), then they better have very deep pockets. And the time.
RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
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Depending on the required data rate, Iridium is another option. Single channel get you 2400 bits (!) per second. But they've now got multi-channel systems that provide 8, 16, or 32 times. Still sloooow, but it does provide true global coverage.
The mid-term future will bring more options.
RE: SatCom on-the-move 7.2-8.4 gHz electrical experience
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Doesn't presently fit the 7.2 - 8.4 GHz range, but there's no reason it couldn't be scaled up in size.