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Classic rookie error over temperature

Classic rookie error over temperature

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

And their English isn't very good either.

"up to ... lower"

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

csd72,

   My favorite journalist statistic was in an article in Maclain's magazine claiming that 48% of Progressive Conservative voters in Canada were men and 42% women.

   It looks to me like the author used some canned tool to convert °C into °F.   This illustrates the importance of not using canned tools, especially ones you do not understand.  I had an instructor in college who insisted that we describe temperature changes and differences as C° and F°.

   Given the amount of news that consists of Very Important People announcing statistics, you would think that journalism courses would include a rigorous course on statistics and their interpretation.  

               JHG

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

I hate it when journalists describe 30°C as "twice as warm" as 15°C.

- Steve

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

There's 93% probability that 97% of the information in any news article will be wrong more than 50% of the time.

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

(OP)
Yes definately, particularly when it involves something technical.

Though in my opinion the 'up to' is actually a good use of english as they are referring to the difference rather than the magnitude.

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

Mint,

I think it is higher than that - say 100%.

rmw

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

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   My favorite journalist statistic was in an article in Maclain's magazine claiming that 48% of Progressive Conservative voters in Canada were men and 42% women.

No doubt the other ten percent were exploring the new frontier of gender uncertainty.

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

Quote:

There's 93% probability that 97% of the information in any news article will be wrong more than 50% of the time.

It is well known that 36% of all statistics are just made up.
 

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RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

In the latest issue of Wired magazine (19.02), page 102, comes the comment about the Dinorwig Power Station:  '...[it] can generate 1320 megawatts in just 10 seconds'.

 

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

Dinorwig is intended to be a rapid response power station to cope with peaks in demand.  Maybe it can come on-line in 10 seconds (0-1320MW in 10 seconds) and that's what they meant.

- Steve

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

... I found this statement in another article:

"This standby mode gives Dinorwig the fastest response time of any pumped-storage power station in the world. In approximately 12 seconds, the output of Dinorwig can be ramped from zero to 1,320 MW."

- Steve

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

If you think that's bad, look at this article (See, even if it is prehistoric, it's Scottish and it isn't eating people like in Lake Placid!) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8332535/New-photo-of-English-Nessie-hailed-as-best-yet.html
Now tell me, how many humps do you count in that picture?

Quote:

The photograph, which shows an object with three humps breaching the surface of the lake, is said to be the best evidence yet of what some claim is a monster lurking beneath the depths.

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

 

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

Perhaps the hump on the right is its head, and the author did not consider that as a hump.

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

When it comes to working with commonly used temperature scales, the only thing that you can be sure of is that 40° below zero IS 40° below zero.  

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

Yeah, but which is colder? and how do you explain it to a journalist?

JMW
www.ViscoAnalyser.com

 

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

I never really thought about it, but I do remember when I was a kid back in Northern Michigan waiting for the school bus when it was 40° below zero sad

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

Did the school bus have top drive uphill both ways?

rmw

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

No, that only affected the people who walked to school winky smile

We lived in the country (in my case, 20+ miles from the high school) so it was a long bus ride for us.

However, the buses were running at 40° below as they had engine block heaters so they always started, even on the coldest of mornings.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

jmw

explain to a journalist???

that is a bigger waste of time than trying to figure out politicians.

count me in on journalistic ineptness in all things technical,ouch!

M6

RE: Classic rookie error over temperature

Just remember that 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
http://www.siemens.com/plm
http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

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