Composite vs. Non-composite Steel Beams
Composite vs. Non-composite Steel Beams
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What would be the cheaper way to do it?
If steel beam depth is not an issue, would it be cheaper to design the floor beams as non-composite?
Obviously, with composite design, the weight of the steel beam is less, but is the savings in steel weight then offset by the labor to install shear connectors?
If steel beam depth is not an issue, would it be cheaper to design the floor beams as non-composite?
Obviously, with composite design, the weight of the steel beam is less, but is the savings in steel weight then offset by the labor to install shear connectors?
RE: Composite vs. Non-composite Steel Beams
I think for the most part composite beams in buildings such as office buildings, especially when there is repetition, will win out over non-composite, and you get the benefits of reduced deflection and an all around stiffer floor since the slab and beam are mechanically tied together.
RE: Composite vs. Non-composite Steel Beams
Favor the use of partially composite
action in beam design. Although shear
stud installation costs vary widely by
region, on average, one installed shear
stud equates to 10 lb of steel. Fully composite
designs are not usually the most
economical because the average weight
savings per stud is less than 10 lb.
Modern Steel Construction / April 2000
Figure 2. Web penetration reinforcement of an I-shaped beam.
Sometimes, the average weight savings
per stud for 50 to 75 percent composite
beams can exceed the point of equivalency.
In some cases, non-composite construction
can be most economical. A
caveat: make sure that the beam in a
composite design is adequate to carry the
weight of the wet concrete.
• When composite construction is
specified, the size, spacing, quantity
and pattern of placement of shear stud
connectors should be specified. It
should also be compatible with the type
and orientation of the steel deck used.
When evaluating the relative economy of
composite construction, keep in mind
that most shear stud connector installers
charge a minimum daily fee. So, unless
there are enough shear stud connectors
on a job to warrant at least a day's work,
it may be more economical to specify a
heavier non-composite beam.
RE: Composite vs. Non-composite Steel Beams
Don't mix and match though. If you're going to use composite, put at least a few studs on every beam to make sure the steel frame is "locked" into the composite slab everywhere.
RE: Composite vs. Non-composite Steel Beams
Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
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RE: Composite vs. Non-composite Steel Beams
The client does want to support brick veneer, so the spandrel beams will be L/600 for deflection.
Therefore, I guess I'm leaning towards composite construction.
RE: Composite vs. Non-composite Steel Beams
With your last comment about brick, mind your Ps and Qs on camber and deflection, and compatibility of parallel beams.