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CAELinux website
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MikeHalloran
Mechanical
Yes, I _did_.
The 2008 version, based on PCLinuxOS, had some problem that pretty much forced me to install it to the hard drive. As soon as I got it installed and connected to the network, PCLinuxOS insisted on installing >thousands< of updates. ... that broke the CAE part.
Maybe that's why they switched horses.
The 2009 version, based on Ubuntu LTS, won't even boot on a 32 bit cpu, e.g. all the computers I have at home. At work, it booted okay, but there was some bug in Ubuntu that prevented it from getting past the proxy server for Internet access. So I installed it to the hard drive. Again, lots of updates, that broke stuff.
The site's forums, at least the English- speaking ones, are full of users (or would-be users) trying to patch it together again, with varying degrees of success.
All the demos and tutorials and documents apply to the 2008 version, or maybe the 2007 version.
It has a lot of potential, that is, for me, so far, unrealized.
Maybe I'm just holding my tongue wrong.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
The 2008 version, based on PCLinuxOS, had some problem that pretty much forced me to install it to the hard drive. As soon as I got it installed and connected to the network, PCLinuxOS insisted on installing >thousands< of updates. ... that broke the CAE part.
Maybe that's why they switched horses.
The 2009 version, based on Ubuntu LTS, won't even boot on a 32 bit cpu, e.g. all the computers I have at home. At work, it booted okay, but there was some bug in Ubuntu that prevented it from getting past the proxy server for Internet access. So I installed it to the hard drive. Again, lots of updates, that broke stuff.
The site's forums, at least the English- speaking ones, are full of users (or would-be users) trying to patch it together again, with varying degrees of success.
All the demos and tutorials and documents apply to the 2008 version, or maybe the 2007 version.
It has a lot of potential, that is, for me, so far, unrealized.
Maybe I'm just holding my tongue wrong.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
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I was going to try the 2008 version. I have been learning Calculix and was looking for other options that run on Linux. I don't think we are far from seeing this kind of stuff going more mainstream. I would rather tinker and get something to work right than put up with constantl hearing "we will {fix that bug|have that feature|be a lot faster} in the next release" from salesmen.
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MikeHalloran
Mechanical
How do you feel about tinkering for hundreds of hours and _not_ getting it to work right?
Okay, maybe your luck will be different.
Please do report back, especially if you succeed.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
Okay, maybe your luck will be different.
Please do report back, especially if you succeed.
Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA
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Yeah, I know that concern. Calculix IS running OK on Ubuntu and Windows for me. CAELinux is new to me.
It looks like CAELinux is pretty ambitious to integrate those individual packages.
I'm no programmer, but have been compiling and running Unix/Linux stuff for years and am still learning how it works.
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It looks like CAELinux is pretty ambitious to integrate those individual packages.
I'm no programmer, but have been compiling and running Unix/Linux stuff for years and am still learning how it works.
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kellnerp,
I do not understand why these guys have to create their own Linux distributions. This is one of the mistakes Corel made when they marketed the Linux version of PordWerfect. The Corel Linux was user friendly, but often, it would not install.
I have been installing GNU/Linux since 1995. My experience has been that zero, one, or two things go wrong. The problem usually is some piece of hardware not recognized by the Linux distribution. When you create your own Linux fork, you maximize the probability of this. All of my recent installs of Fedora Cores 5 to 10 on various machines, have gone without a hitch. Fedora and Ubuntu and those other big distributions have put a tremendous amount of effort into hardware support, and you would be nuts not to take advantage of it.
To run CAD Package X, you need a bunch of libraries and applications already installed on the machine. Fedora's rpm checks for dependencies, and yum actively searches for and installs them. I am sure Ubuntu has equivalents. Setting up an install package for one or both systems has to be a lot less work than creating a new distribution.
I believe that if a non-UNIX-geek bought a Fedora Linux Bible and attempted the install, they would succeed. Ubuntu is supposted to more user friendly, but I am not familiar with it. The only problem I have with Fedora is that they need an "Install Everything" button.
On my last Fedora Core 10 installation, I went through all the packages. I selected install for everything except for telnetd. I went through all the offsite internet packages and I selected install for those too, then I went to bed. I have no idea of how long it took. I have 20GB of stuff on my root partition. I make a point of not calling Microsoft Windows bloatware.
JHG
I do not understand why these guys have to create their own Linux distributions. This is one of the mistakes Corel made when they marketed the Linux version of PordWerfect. The Corel Linux was user friendly, but often, it would not install.
I have been installing GNU/Linux since 1995. My experience has been that zero, one, or two things go wrong. The problem usually is some piece of hardware not recognized by the Linux distribution. When you create your own Linux fork, you maximize the probability of this. All of my recent installs of Fedora Cores 5 to 10 on various machines, have gone without a hitch. Fedora and Ubuntu and those other big distributions have put a tremendous amount of effort into hardware support, and you would be nuts not to take advantage of it.
To run CAD Package X, you need a bunch of libraries and applications already installed on the machine. Fedora's rpm checks for dependencies, and yum actively searches for and installs them. I am sure Ubuntu has equivalents. Setting up an install package for one or both systems has to be a lot less work than creating a new distribution.
I believe that if a non-UNIX-geek bought a Fedora Linux Bible and attempted the install, they would succeed. Ubuntu is supposted to more user friendly, but I am not familiar with it. The only problem I have with Fedora is that they need an "Install Everything" button.
On my last Fedora Core 10 installation, I went through all the packages. I selected install for everything except for telnetd. I went through all the offsite internet packages and I selected install for those too, then I went to bed. I have no idea of how long it took. I have 20GB of stuff on my root partition. I make a point of not calling Microsoft Windows bloatware.
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I kind of think that anyone posting on a Linux forum has pretty much gotten a handle on either installing packages or running make files.
The Calculix folks have fairly decent cross platform support that includes Windows and various Linux flavors. There is also a company that includes the kind of support the non-venturesome have come to expect.
CAELinux is a different bear and much more ambitious. I have no idea why they use PCLinuxOS or whatever that is, but to tell the truth I haven't looked into why they did that either.
I would say Ubuntu is far and away the best platform support wise for the non-adventuresome. I have had 80+ year old non-computer literate Windows people sit down at Ubuntu and bring up their favorite apps and not know the difference. I get updates weekly and those updates install without a hiccup.
Like all things Linux both CAELinux and Calculix have an active development team with a cycle time considerably faster and more open to user input than the bigs boys. These two horses are in the race.
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The Calculix folks have fairly decent cross platform support that includes Windows and various Linux flavors. There is also a company that includes the kind of support the non-venturesome have come to expect.
CAELinux is a different bear and much more ambitious. I have no idea why they use PCLinuxOS or whatever that is, but to tell the truth I haven't looked into why they did that either.
I would say Ubuntu is far and away the best platform support wise for the non-adventuresome. I have had 80+ year old non-computer literate Windows people sit down at Ubuntu and bring up their favorite apps and not know the difference. I get updates weekly and those updates install without a hiccup.
Like all things Linux both CAELinux and Calculix have an active development team with a cycle time considerably faster and more open to user input than the bigs boys. These two horses are in the race.
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"Node news is good news."
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