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Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

(OP)
Just wondering - in USA our cars get a mileage of 25 mi/gal, say - or we get so much money when using our cars for work for "mileage".  What is the equivalent in metric (SI)(I am aware they like to say #ltrs/100km - but this doesn't translate well into an adjective) . . . Does kilometrage seem right??

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

"Consumption" or "Specific Consumption" would seem right, but I think they just say 'litres', as in the big marketing push now to come up with a '1 litre' car.



 

Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Kilometreage would not sound right, and I have never heard it.  In Australia, people (old people like me) still talk about mileage when they mean litres/100 km.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

I am sure no SI term for mileage; SI is universal across languages to allow calculations to be understood.

For the same reason there is no SI term for car, petrol, travelling allowance or fiddling expenses.
 

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Surely it would be milliage instead of mileage?

corus

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

No wait, American gallons are different from British gallons, so you'd be talking about how many miles does am american car use in gallons(US)/litres, or a snappy acronym might be how many miles does it guzzle.  

corus

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

how about litres per centi kilometre or lck?

In Australia we used to talk k's per litre (kpl?)

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Well dimensionally, litres per 100 km is an area. How about pico-hectares? 1 litre per 100 km is 10 pico-hectares.

To me, "milage" means how many miles are on the odometer.

M

--
Dr Michael F Platten

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(OP)
Yeah - but I don't have mileage on the odometer - I have km!  Brits don't use the imperial gallon anymore do they?? . . . so there is no misunderstanding of what a gallon is.  

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Fuel is sold in litres, but our odometers use miles.  Most fuel pumps still have litre-gallon conversion charts.  The practice of quoting fuel price in gallons (by the media) seems to have died out.

Beer has been metric in cans for years, but imperial in pubs.

- Steve

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No. UK gallon is still much bigger than a US one. Yes there is definitely misunderstanding!

M

--
Dr Michael F Platten

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... which is why the published MPG figures for American cars make British journos laugh in their columns.

How many normal American citizens would understand what a 3 litre care is?  Probably no more or less than Brits.  They'd probably think it refers to capacity.

- Steve

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

IMHO, origni of the word mileage may be in miles. But it is very much part of the english language not necessarily a technical unit in any system, SI or Emperial.

I see no issue measuring or reading mileage in km/liter.  

Rafiq Bulsara
http://www.srengineersct.com

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

"How many normal American citizens would understand what a 3 litre care is?  Probably no more or less than Brits.  They'd probably think it refers to capacity."

In the US, we have a designation for cubic inches for capacity.  So when someone says a 3 liter car, it would be easy to see how an American would assume that you are talking capacity.  

Personally, I don't put a lot of weight on what an OEM claims to be their fuel efficiency.  The tests that they use to determine it aren't how most drive their vehicles, but that is for another debate.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

In ther US military, the metric measure is commonly used and the term is "clicks", with one click equalling 1000 meters or one Kilometer.  It is common to refer to the number of clicks to a certain location.  Never heard anyone concerned with mileage though since the Battle of the Bulge.

Mike McCann
MMC Engineering

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To me (I'm in the USA), a 3 liter car is one that has an engine displacement of 3 l. And I fail to understand "capacity" at all in this context. Are you speaking of fuel tank capacity? Passenger/cargo compartment volume? Seems rather tight.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

A car that can cover 100km using 3 litres of fuel.

- Steve

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

rbulsara,

Come to think of it, I can remember buying a few cars in Australia and asking what the mileage is on it even though everything was in metric. Some terms continue even if their origins are lost.

msquared48,

In Australia clicks and k's are two common ways of saying kilometres.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

You can talk of "Fuel consumption", in mpg, l/100km or even km/l.
For odometer reading "kilometrage" is used in Europe, especially in French and other romanic languages, Canadians would say "mileage", measured in kilometres.
BTW, in Canada we measure distances in km, buy fuel in litres, but some people (and some car ads) still talk about mpg - they must love doing calculations!

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BigH,

   Here in Canada, I am used to hearing "mileage", measured in liters per hundred kilometers.  Maybe I hang out with too many middle aged people.  Maybe the young kids think we are discussing Miley Cyrus.  

   I suppose we could say "literage".  

   How many Europeans measure car power in kilowatts?   

               JHG

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

(OP)
BTW - I'm Canadian too - but haven't lived there since '95.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

BigH,

"Mileage" is not an adjective.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

"How many normal American citizens would understand what a 3 litre car is?"

Surely to most normal people, no matter where they live, this means a car with a 3 litre displacement engine.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

(OP)
hokie66 - it is when I am talking about reimbursement as "mileage money" or "mileage reimbursement." wink

Yeah but a 3 litre car means what?  183in3, "puny" which is how we think of the Detroit cars!  My neighbour used to have an Olds 98 with a 500in3 enginer pre-catalytic converter!  My first car was a '65 Jetstar 88 with a 360in3 engine - the smallest Oldsmobile made that year.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

You got me there.  But on the other point, surely nobody needs these big engines anymore.  I had a 351 once myself, but a 2.0 litre Mazda3 is big enough these days.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

I'm only in my 40's and British, but still convert l/100km into imperial mpg.  I also convert every engine programme we work on from Kw to BHP.

- Steve

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Sorry, KW.

- Steve

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I thought it was "kW".

David

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Doh!!

- Steve

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If I am asked what the mileage is on my car, I'll say close to 100 thousand but the fuel consumption is about 22 mpg.

As it's a European car in the American market, that would translate..over dere.. to close to 160 thousand KM's on the clock and 9.3 l/km

drawn to design, designed to draw

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Here I think it's based more on contest; what is the mileage on my car?  100K miles.  What mileage does my car get?  About 25mpg.

"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - Robert Hunter
 

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Since this is the language forum, that should read "context".

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

ewh--that's how I use the word, as well.  Two different ways depending on context.

Hg

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RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Well according to my dictionary it has five uses.

1.    A distance expressed in miles
2.    The total number of miles that a vehicle has travelled.
3.    Allowance for travelling expenses, esp as a fixed rate per a mile
4.    The number of miles a vehicle will travel on one gallon of fuel
5.    Inf, use, benefit or service provided by something
 

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

(OP)
We seem to have consensus on the usage in Imperial or US - but what about France, Italy, Spain, etc.??  What's the {blank} on their car odometer?

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I know that in Canada, most people will refer to odometer readings as 'clicks' or 'k's.  The k, is especially funny, because sometimes car ads will say a car has 20k on it, by which they actually mean 20,000 km, which should be 20Mm on it, but then no one would understand that, either.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Now that is funny!

I do not see anything funny with 20k = 20,000 km

Don't we in the US say a car has 20k? Which also means 20,000 miles.

Why should a 20,000 km be called 20Mm?
Should 20,000 miles be called 105.5M feet? (if my math is right!)

Rafiq Bulsara
http://www.srengineersct.com

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

blush
A typo on a language forum... how embarassing.

"Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor." - Robert Hunter
 

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

My neighbour used to have an Olds 98 with a 500in3 engine pre-catalytic converter!  My first car was a '65 Jetstar 88 with a 360in3 engine - the smallest Oldsmobile made that year.
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Corrections: The largest Olds engine offered was the 455 CID, from 1968 thru 1976. The previous big-car engine was the 425 CID- same bore, but shorter stroke, offered 1965 thru 1967. There was never a 360 CID Olds engine. The Jetstar 88 was an entry level Big Car, with big car body but A-body engine [and brakes]. I still have a 1964 Jetstar 88. The small V8 engine for 1964 thru 1967 displaced 330 cubic inches with a 3-15/16" bore and 3.348" stroke, bored out starting in 1968 to 4.057" for a displacement of 350 cubic inches, which was produced for many more years. All that and more in the FAQ files via 442.com.  

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

(OP)
TheRocketScientist - you are correct - it was a 330?  Sorry - it's been a long time.  I was just going by memory on the neighbours car - it could have been one of the other "similar" ones - cars are not really my thing - but thanks for the corrections. blush

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

The 360 you're thinking of would be a Dodge/Chrysler engine.  I had one in my 1978 Dodge Monaco station wagon...


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RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Working to solve the problem at hand,
How about "l" "p" "click"
or just cut to the chase and call it the SI Guzzle Ratio

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

SI-people just call it "Fuel consumption" in the appropriate language. Since we talk about the inverse of "mileage" i.e. litres / km, there cannot be any other expression. Sorry for the wet blanket.
Dan
 

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

(OP)
Okay - so when I talk to people about how much "mileage money" my company reimburses me for using my car, I'll call it "Fuel Consumption money".  Mouthful.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

BigH;
I don't think that use of "mileage" is the same as using it for fuel consumption. See earlier posts above.
Your "mileage money" should cover more than just fuel, like wear, fixed costs etc. Over here in SI-land it does, anyway.
 

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

We do not have any word corresponding to mileage. We speak about consumption, just like MikeHalloran said.

"Kilométrage" does exist but means the total amount of kilometers done with your car.

Cyril Guichard
Railroad Sub-System Manager
Belgium

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

In the context the OP was talking about (being reimbursed for usage on a personal car used for business) here in Quebec we'd say "mileage" in English & "Kilometrage" in French.
It would be reported on your expense report in kilometers no matter the language.   

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

If we all adopt the US system of units then there would be no problem smile

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Ussuri, you should know that jokes are best appreciated in the Pub.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"


BTW, in Spanish it is kilometraje with a j.

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Everyone in UK (except possibly a few nerdy pedants) refers to a car's fuel consumption in mpg. That's UK gallons (about 4.54 litres) not the puny American ones.

This is despite the fact that in UK we've been buying fuel in litres for many years. We have got used to the notion that mpg in the 20s is bad, 30s is fair, 40+ good (although these perceptions change over the years - 30 mpg used to be the holy grail when I was a lad!). Litres / 100 km is an equally good measure and is meaningful to a Frenchman - but doesn't resonate with a Brit.

However, miles are definitely the unit for long distances in the mind of Mr UK Average. Engineers and soldiers  will use km, sailors will use nautical miles, but all official road signs are still in miles, yards etc. So we're only partially a metric country.

Mileage is not a common term in UK for fuel consumption, though I've heard it used. 'High mileage' means lots of miles on the odometer.

The only good thing is that an engineer can work out one from the other in his or her head and appear knowledgeable.

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

As an EE, I know all about metric stuff but I'm old enough to still think in conventional units. Before we switch to km, I suggest someone would decide how to pronounce it. On US media,it's pronounced about half the time with the accent on the second syllable. I've never heard anyone mispronounce good old "mileage".

RE: Metric (SI) Equivalent of Adjective "Mileage"

Since the US soldiers call kilometres klicks, how about klickage.

Can't confirm this but I think the British army uses clicks to mean a number of arcseconds.

 

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