Asking the different of rod and pipe for grounding
Asking the different of rod and pipe for grounding
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Dear friends,
have you discussed the different of using ground rod & ground well/pipe for the size/diameter? I have search to standard, there is no mention the formula of using pipe, almost all of reference just mention to use cooper rod, plate, ring..
My opinition,
as skin effect that the current only flow at the eletrode/rod surface, I think the ground pipe will give the same impedance or resistance with ground rod.
If no, do you have the reference for pipe shape formula..
thanks
have you discussed the different of using ground rod & ground well/pipe for the size/diameter? I have search to standard, there is no mention the formula of using pipe, almost all of reference just mention to use cooper rod, plate, ring..
My opinition,
as skin effect that the current only flow at the eletrode/rod surface, I think the ground pipe will give the same impedance or resistance with ground rod.
If no, do you have the reference for pipe shape formula..
thanks
RE: Asking the different of rod and pipe for grounding
Transition resistance depends mainly on electrode size and surface quality and on ground type, conditioning and humidity degree. Conduction depends on ground conductivity and electrode equivalent radius as well.
Julian
RE: Asking the different of rod and pipe for grounding
Be careful with choosing -- remember the code requires that underground metallic water piping and structural steel must be bonded to a grounding electrode too in almost all cases, in order to prevent potentially lethal potential differences during fault currents or lightning activity.
A cheap and effective grounding electrode connection in my experience is to trench 18" to 24" deep, 4" wide, and 25 feet long, somewhere convenient. Lay a bare #4 copper conductor on 2" thick spacers in the whole length of the trench, and fill 4" to 6" deep with concrete. Connect to the conductor at the end with an exothermic weld. I have never failed to get less than one ohm with this method, which I learned from a Westinghouse systems engineer friend, even when three 8-foot driven rods couldn't get me below 5 ohms. Best of all, I found that if I timed things right on the construction site I could use somebody else's ditch witch and concrete if they were already there, saving me the trouble of rounding these up for such a little ditch and pour. Usually cost me a sandwich and coke.
Best of luck!
Old Dave
RE: Asking the different of rod and pipe for grounding
Given that soil resistivity is generally the largest single factor in determining resistance, increasing the surface area of the grounding electrode is most effective. Concrete is fairly low resistivity when moist, and its volume in a Ufer ground presents a very large surface area in interfacing to the soil.
Similarly, augering a small-diameter hole around the ground rod and backfilling with low-resistivity material such as bentonite clay or a proprietary mixture (ie. Erico GEM) is also effective. Since the surface area is proportional to r^2, small increases in diameter greatly increase the surface area.
From this point of view, a pipe could be quite effective, as a 1-1/2" pipe would provide four times the surface area of a 3/4" ground rod.
RE: Asking the different of rod and pipe for grounding
RE: Asking the different of rod and pipe for grounding