Adding plates to a beam model
Adding plates to a beam model
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I have a beam model now I need to add a plate. Picture a house. The beams are the 2 x 4 and the plate is the sheeting.
When I add a part and define the elements as plates, apply the beam offset, solve, only the plate is solved. What I am missing?
When I add a part and define the elements as plates, apply the beam offset, solve, only the plate is solved. What I am missing?
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
Garland E. Borowski, PE
Borowski Engineering & Analytical Services, Inc.
Lower Alabama SolidWorks Users Group
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
At locations where the beams have nodes attached to the plates, the displacements are equivalent (guess this is obvious). Stresses in plates and stresses in beams are two different "animals", so to see them at the same time would be more confusing. Bending in beams is a matter of Mc/I where bending stresses in plates are much nastier partial differential equations.
Garland E. Borowski, PE
Borowski Engineering & Analytical Services, Inc.
Lower Alabama SolidWorks Users Group
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
Will the reported beam stresses and displacement be with or without the plate?
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
1) (this one is a bit obvious) When you specify the mesh on the plate, make sure you divide the beam into the same number of segments as you built the plate.
2) Divide the line that makes the beam and use the "Point Move" feature to lock the beam nodes to the nearest plate node.
3) A little more complicated: If your beam cuts across elements of your plate (instead of being aligned with an edge of the plate or a row of nodes on the plate), copy the beam to the same part number as the plate and then use the CAD Geometry tools to "Intersect All". This will cut the beams by every line that crosses it. The reason for the copying to the same part as the plate (notice I said "COPY", not "MODIFY PROPERTIES") is so that your new line created by this copy will also be split and insure that you have complete elements on your plate. One problem with this: If you cut across the corner of a quad plate element with part of the beam, you will end up forming a 5-noded plate element, which is not acceptable, so you will have to look at the plate when you are done and make sure that there are only 3 or 4 noded elements.
Hope this helps.
Garland
Garland E. Borowski, PE
Borowski Engineering & Analytical Services, Inc.
Lower Alabama SolidWorks Users Group
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
What about the results - does the plate have an affect the stress indicated in the beam results. It current does not, but it is probably due to not enough nodes aligned to transfer load.
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
If you take a plate and stiffen it will a grillage of beams so that it looks like a waffle and pressurize the plate, the resulting deplacements will look like a sheet draped over a clothes line...it will sag between the stiffeners.
Hope this helps!
Garland E. Borowski, PE
Borowski Engineering & Analytical Services, Inc.
Lower Alabama SolidWorks Users Group
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
ZCP
www.phoenix-engineer.com
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
To simulate the nailing of the sheeting to the 2 x 4, we have spaced the nodes on the beams and plates to match the spacing in production. Results seem to correlate the model to our testing. Now we want to look at adding an adhesive to the joint.
Do we model the adhesive as a plate and customize the properties to match the adhesive? Do we need to move to non linear?
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
ZCP
www.phoenix-engineer.com
RE: Adding plates to a beam model
Garland E. Borowski, PE
Borowski Engineering & Analytical Services, Inc.
Lower Alabama SolidWorks Users Group