3 Phase Heater
3 Phase Heater
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If I have a 480V 72kW 3 phase heater what is the current on each phase? 86A or 29A
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RE: 3 Phase Heater
Wirenut
RE: 3 Phase Heater
~2.8 amps/kVA for 208V·3ø
~2.4 amps/kVA for 240V·3ø
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Wirenut
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Doesn’t that mean 110-amp overcurrent protection and 2AWG 75°C Cu conductors?
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Don(resqcapt19)
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Wirenut
RE: 3 Phase Heater
This, in turn, would require #2 AWG, assuming that the terminations at **both ends** of the circuit are rated for 75 deg C. But this is not a good assumption for end-use equipment 100 amps or less.
Safest approach is to assume 60 deg C terminations and use 60C insulation ampacity for all circuits up through 100A. This would require #1 AWG.
This is an NEC-UL centered analysis and probably would be much different in other parts of the world.
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To support dpc's reply, there is (NRTL-) listed equipment that is labeled "use 90°C conductors with 60°C ampacity.
RE: 3 Phase Heater
Can you please further explain your calculation. Is the 480V a line-line or phase voltage from a delta or a star. If I assume the 480V is line-line and that the 72kW heater is a delta, I get 29A. However, if I assume it is a star, my calculation is 29A.
Which is it?
For a delta,
72000=3(VLL)(ILL)
72000=3(480)(Ip/1.73)
Ip=29A
For a star,
72000=3(Vp)(Ip)
72000=3(480/1.73)(Ip)
72000=832(Ip)
Ip=86A
Exocet
RE: 3 Phase Heater
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I know the formula, I wanted to know how wirenut assumed that it was a delta? It could have been a star? I don't work with motors and nameplates on an everyday basis so that is why I am asking?
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Although I have my PE, and have sized cable for industry and Naval ships for years, I am no expert in the NEC. Perhaps these other contributers are better sources for the complexities of the various standards and codes.
Wirenut
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As Wirenut says, it doesn't matter how the load is connected, delta or star, if all you are interested in is the *line* current.
480V is the line to line voltage, nothing in how the load is connected can change that.
For any three-phase balanced load: kVA = VLL * Iline * 1.732
dpc
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Wirenut