Ordering Spare Motor to be compatible with existing relay settings
Ordering Spare Motor to be compatible with existing relay settings
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For purchase of a motor for a new installation the manufacturer would typically provide motor performance data and thermal damage curve and the user selects relay setpoint curve to fit between the motor starting curve (current vs time) and the motor damage curve.
I am in the process of buying a replacement (spare) for a group of 3500hp 324rpm vertical induction motors. We would prefer that there be no relay setpoint changes necessary in order to install the spare motor since we plan on swapping motors periodically to accomplish maintenance (stator cleaning) and we don't want to have to adjust relays every time.
I'm considering two approaches:
#1 - Simple but restrictive approach: Tell the manufacturer (bidder) to recreate or exceed the existing motor torque-speed curve and thermal damage curve, and require that FLA and LRA be less than or equal to existing:
#2 - Motre complicated but less restrictive approach - Give the manufacturer/bidder our existing relay settings and ask him to give us a motor whose starting curve will lie below the existing curve by specified margin and whose thermal damage curve will lie above our settings.
Has anyone ever done this? Any comments? Any convenient way to express the required margin for option #2?
I am in the process of buying a replacement (spare) for a group of 3500hp 324rpm vertical induction motors. We would prefer that there be no relay setpoint changes necessary in order to install the spare motor since we plan on swapping motors periodically to accomplish maintenance (stator cleaning) and we don't want to have to adjust relays every time.
I'm considering two approaches:
#1 - Simple but restrictive approach: Tell the manufacturer (bidder) to recreate or exceed the existing motor torque-speed curve and thermal damage curve, and require that FLA and LRA be less than or equal to existing:
#2 - Motre complicated but less restrictive approach - Give the manufacturer/bidder our existing relay settings and ask him to give us a motor whose starting curve will lie below the existing curve by specified margin and whose thermal damage curve will lie above our settings.
Has anyone ever done this? Any comments? Any convenient way to express the required margin for option #2?
RE: Ordering Spare Motor to be compatible with existing relay settings
we are sure if you supply these curves to a large motor manufacturer they could build a machine to these specs.
we would however suggest you talk to a manufacturer and outline your concerns and your requirements.
kind regds.
RE: Ordering Spare Motor to be compatible with existing relay settings
Just a thought,
Gord
RE: Ordering Spare Motor to be compatible with existing relay settings
However, in your case, the requirement being limited only to nameplate plus the desire to not change relay settings, then option 1 is what most designers are used to dealing with.
These are big slow speed machines. I am guessing they are vertical motors driving pumps. With closed valve starting, the load is probably less than the NEMA minimum for this rating thus meeting relay settings may not be a big deal cost wise. Meeting the existing mounting dimensions could now be the most cost sensitive part.