Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
(OP)
I am considering a stepper application via Flex I/O. We have done this locally (steppers close to the PLC). Now we would like to move these steppers out next to our machine. To reduce wiring we have suggested Flex I/O. We already are using Ethernet/IP for a couple other devices.
There cannot be any delays (1-2 seconds is too long) when the stepper is told to go. I know about network collisions with Ethernet. But, this being Rockwell's Ethernet/IP (supposedly a good choice for control applications) is it reliable within my time constraints to get it to work.
If not any other alternatives without adding any specialty cards(i.e. Sercos) to the PLC?
Anybody's opinion or experience with Ethernet/IP would help.
Thanks
There cannot be any delays (1-2 seconds is too long) when the stepper is told to go. I know about network collisions with Ethernet. But, this being Rockwell's Ethernet/IP (supposedly a good choice for control applications) is it reliable within my time constraints to get it to work.
If not any other alternatives without adding any specialty cards(i.e. Sercos) to the PLC?
Anybody's opinion or experience with Ethernet/IP would help.
Thanks





RE: Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
ethernet. If you have delays longer than 200 mS using
TCP, something is very wrong. 50 mS with UDP. Usually,
on short runs, the propogation delay is less than the
resolution on whatever you will have to measure it with;
the only appreciable delay is after the interface circuitry
(i.e., in processing the packets). Only on VERY heavily-
loaded networks are collisions any problem.
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RE: Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
I worked on high speed applications where if I triggered the motor too early, it wouldn't pick up the product. If I triggered it too late, it would cause the product to pile up. For my application, a steady PLC scan time and network determinism (SERCOS) was needed.
Also, have you considered ControlNet?
Hope this helps.
RE: Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
RE: Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
an old colleague of mine has recently been writing a few technical articles about use of industrial ethernet within motion control applications. He's mainly focusing on Profinet and profibus based systems but this article should provide some food for thought:
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RE: Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
I presume these are steppers that require just discrete I/O for commands ? I wouldn't attempt a pulse train over any network, but as you described just commanding the steppers to go, it ought to be no problem at all.
Rockwell has a good performance and application publication for EtherNet/IP systems that has switch considerations and network bridge loading worksheets.
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RE: Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
As you can see from the Rockwell info too, and to answer your original question, there should be no major concerns using Ethernet/IP. It is certainly the way for future.
RE: Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
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RE: Ethernet/IP good choice for fast reliable control application?
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