Effect of weather on mileage?
Effect of weather on mileage?
(OP)
Am I going nuts here? This is something I've noticed recently:
A few months ago (July, August) I was getting 29-30 mpg on my commute to and from work, which unfortunately is 104 mile round trip. They were dry, sunny days with temps around 85-90°F.
The past few weeks, we've had a good deal of rain and colder weather, with highs in the 40°F range, and my mileage has been around 26-27 mpg.
The mileages stated above were from my car's "Multi Function Display" which shows me average miles per gallon. I have about 7 miles of city driving and ~45 miles of highway driving (70-75 mph) each way. I haven't significantly changed my driving habits as far as I can tell, except maybe driving slower in heavy rain, which should improve my mileage.
Would colder, denser, or more humid (rainy) air contribute enough aerodynamic effect (wind resistance) to lower my mileage?
Changes other than weather: Cleaned and re-charged K&N air filter a week ago, which I believe should also improve my mileage if their propaganda is believable.
A few months ago (July, August) I was getting 29-30 mpg on my commute to and from work, which unfortunately is 104 mile round trip. They were dry, sunny days with temps around 85-90°F.
The past few weeks, we've had a good deal of rain and colder weather, with highs in the 40°F range, and my mileage has been around 26-27 mpg.
The mileages stated above were from my car's "Multi Function Display" which shows me average miles per gallon. I have about 7 miles of city driving and ~45 miles of highway driving (70-75 mph) each way. I haven't significantly changed my driving habits as far as I can tell, except maybe driving slower in heavy rain, which should improve my mileage.
Would colder, denser, or more humid (rainy) air contribute enough aerodynamic effect (wind resistance) to lower my mileage?
Changes other than weather: Cleaned and re-charged K&N air filter a week ago, which I believe should also improve my mileage if their propaganda is believable.
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It also takes energy to splash through standing water and force it out from the contact patches.
Norm
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Not knowing what your driving conditions are, I wonder if the slip of the wet roads is having a detrimental effect, and, I wonder if your actual driving techniques minute to minute are the same. In other words, is everyone breezing along comfortably during the good weather, while alternately braking/accelerating while driving cautiously during tenuous wet road conditions.
Remember too that all your oils and lubes, engine, rear end, trans, drivelines, wheel bearings, etc are stiffer in the colder conditions, and that affects gas mileage.
In my part of the country, colder weather, notwithstanding my previous paragraph, is always a gain in gas mileage because the air conditioner is off. Now there is a horsepower hog.
rmw
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I didn't think about the slow down / speed up driving that IS taking place in rainy weather. The highway is much smoother (in terms of traffic flow) in the summer.
Another interesting factor, I got the oil changed yesterday and the tech mistakenly put conventional oil in instead of synthetic, which I've been running since break-in. I can't wait to see how that affects things.
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Colder, denser air DEFINITELY affects the drag forces, and hence, fuel usage for automobiles. There is information available regarding this - just try a detailed search (Google, Scirus) and you should find some information.
Regards,
Cory
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If you have the type of system that merely cycles the compressor clutch, you can definitely hear it hammering on and off all winter (and needing replacement about as often as my wife's) vs seldom hearing it cycle in the summer during the day time. If it is throttling valves, then know that much less refrigerant is flowing and being compressed.
Regarding the purist arguments of air temperature et al, you have to balance the engine efficiency improvements due to the colder denser air, (and water vapor) vs the losses due to additional drag. If you are going to get extremely purist, remember too that you have multiple mini inertial impacts with each and every rain drop that you encounter. Picture hitting all the rain drops you encounter all in one wall of water. Quite a blow, huh?
If you have a (or have someone who has a) exhaust pyrometer, watch your exhaust temperatures during acceleration. They are very revealing as to power required during acceleration (multiple times) during winter type driving conditions vs exhaust temperatures at smooth running. If you remember your college calculus, then just do the second derivative equations that would apply to work done during acceleration.
But, back to the original comment of this post, even at a reduced work load, the AC compressor still adds to the acceleration work load. (Unless of course, you mash the gas hard enough to make it cut out all together.)
I think I read your post about the oil change mistake. I wonder if the performance difference is computable during the time you use the conventional oil before you get back to your synthetic.
And, now an anecdotal story as to the importe of lubricant temperatures. I once returned to the bus from snow skiing and found my buddy there with a tow truck trying to get the thing jumped off (he wasn't an experienced driver, but it was his father-in-law's bus.) I heard them make a start attempt as I walked up, and observed that when the tow truck driver quit spraying ether, it would quit.
Upon stepping up into the bus, I observed that my buddy was sitting sideways in the drivers seat, feet toward the entrance deck. About that time the tow truck driver, who has his jumper cables hooked up and who had been letting the batteries build up again (it was about 20°F outside), shouted 'try again'. As he reached for the key without shifting around in the seat, I asked him what he was going to do and when he said 'start it' I said, "not without turning around and dumping that clutch you aren't."
It hacked him off, but he did it, and it started right up and ran just fine. He very quickly let off of the clutch, and immediately the transmission drag killed the engine again. Well, the end of the story is that it started right back up with the clutch dumped again, and it took quite a while until the oil in the transmission was heated up enough to even permit the clutch to be let out so that the engine could just sit there and idle.
Moral of that story is that the viscosity of all the various lubricants in your vehicle has a major effect on your fuel mileage. I suspect that a significant portion of your commute is devoted to getting them up to proper operating temperature.
rmw
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Blacksmith
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Norm
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The 9% comes from the change in absolute T:
A temperature decrease from 87 to 42oF (303.7 to 278.7 Kelvin) increases the air density by a factor of 303.7/278.7, or 1.0897 times that at 87oF.
A diesel engine shouldn't suffer from this particular effect. Can any diesel drivers comment?
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Just want to say thanks for all the input. Now if I could just wake up early, I'd be getting good mileage on the way TO work as well.