Undisturbed vs. remoulded shear strength
Undisturbed vs. remoulded shear strength
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Pipeline engineer with only limited knowledge in soil mechanics:
A seabed soil is described as clay with undrained shear strength of 5 kPa (21 psf).
I am assuming this is the undisturbed shear strength. What would be the typical upper bound and lower bound values for the ratio undisturbed to remoulded shear strength for this type of soil ?
Many thanks.
A seabed soil is described as clay with undrained shear strength of 5 kPa (21 psf).
I am assuming this is the undisturbed shear strength. What would be the typical upper bound and lower bound values for the ratio undisturbed to remoulded shear strength for this type of soil ?
Many thanks.





RE: Undisturbed vs. remoulded shear strength
RE: Undisturbed vs. remoulded shear strength
To expand a bit on GOTEK's reply, 100 psf for undrained shear strength is technically classified as VERY SOFT. More commonly known as "muck" or even "poo". Aside from the fact that you can't build with it, material this soft is very challenging to test as it pretty much deforms under any normal sampling pressure. I suspect that unless the material was tested in situ, you may have a remolded shear strength value. Again, echoing GOTEK, if there was an in situ test, both peak and remolded strength values should have been reported.
Jeff
Jeffrey T. Donville, PE
TTL Associates, Inc.
www.ttlassoc.com
RE: Undisturbed vs. remoulded shear strength
In effect, he is dealing, at this strength, muck - or, as we Canuks would like to say - "Loon Shit". This is very low - doesn't really matter if peak or remoulded in practice. It is difficult to say anything about the sensitivity from this value. I have seen "not so sensitive" clays have these kind of values.
If he got the strength from vane, I would suppose that there would be some disturbance and this is also reflected in the vane test. You hit the right point of sensitivity and how significant it can be. Norweigan quick clays and those in Quebec can have sensitivities in the order of 500 or more. Your 10 to 25% of the peak being the remoulded indicates you are in sensitive clays - "normal" sensitivity is in the order of 1 to 2 - but many texts give the cut-offs and descriptors of sensitivity.
RE: Undisturbed vs. remoulded shear strength
RE: Undisturbed vs. remoulded shear strength
The bottom of this is the analysis of subsea pipelines laid on seabed - and in particular how much they self-embed.
The soil is described as very soft clay with Su = 5 kPa (or 100 psf !) at suface, linearly increasing to 40 kPA at 33m depth. I have no idea what was the test protocol. It has to be the standard soil investigation for jack-up installation
RE: Undisturbed vs. remoulded shear strength
It's a tough call to advise you how to proceed. The self-embedment of the pipline will likely depend on some or all of the following:
-the unit weight of the pipeline with product inside
-the diameter of the pipeline, flexibility of the pipeline
-the depth of the sea floor (influences buoyant weights and effective weights)
I would assume, based on your limited data, that 5kPa is the unit cohesion of the surface.
Good luck with your analysis.
Jeff
Jeffrey T. Donville, PE
TTL Associates, Inc.
www.ttlassoc.com