Partial collapse in Albany NY
Partial collapse in Albany NY

A section of ramp leading from I-787 into the state capital fell off its rocker Wednesday night. The adjacent span came frigheningly close to falling off the pier.
It was discovered when a motorist drove over the drop and called it in to 911. Luckily, the ramp is one way and no-one hit the exposed end of the span.
Two ramps and several surface streets that cross beneath it were closed, causing traffic chaos.

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RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
Was there a collision with the pier or large temperature change?
RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
I will say that there was no collision with the pier, and I don't think thermal effects can account for all of it.
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RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
" "A routine bridge inspection nearly two years ago found serious problems with the bearings supporting a section of elevated highway that ruptured and dropped 2 feet last week.
Yet, state transportation officials said they made no plans to fix the problems with the Empire State Plaza ramp before the next planned inspection this fall.
The overall rating on the 24-section ramp that links Interstate 787 northbound with the plaza was set at 5, or generally "good," on a scale of 1 to 7 in the November 2003 inspection report. A set of bearings atop the concrete pier where the break occurred, however, received a rating of just 2.
"You can't look at that out of context," said acting state Transportation Commissioner Thomas Madison on Tuesday, six days after the ramp came apart and forced major detours affecting thousands of motorists. "You have to look at the bridge as a complete system."
DOT's rating system for individual bridge parts describes 2 as a grade used to shade between 1, defined as "totally deteriorated, or in failed condition," and 3, defined as "serious deterioration, or not functioning as originally designed."
"This was not a condition at the last inspection report that caused enough concern to have any immediate action taken," Madison said during a technical briefing for reporters, where the inspection report was released late Tuesday afternoon.
Nonetheless, one of DOT's top engineers said it's now clear that the poorly rated rocker bearings, steel supports designed to accommodate weather-related expansions and contractions of bridge sections, could have been a factor.
"There were some low-rated bearing elements that may have had something to do with this," said George Christian, the chief structural engineer for the state Department of Transportation.
The set of poorly rated bearings was on the section of the ramp that remained atop the pier, sliding toward the section that tumbled from its bearings and nearly fell off. The group of bearings was rated so poorly because they were tipped at an unusually extreme angle, Christian said.
"It was tilted, definitely, more than we would have expected it to be tilted for the conditions at the time of the inspection," he said." "
RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
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RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
The only example that I participated in first hand did not involve a bridge, but was a mile or so of welded rail that butted up to a rotary railcar coal unloader. Every summer, for 10 year or so, the maintenance staff had to remove 6 inches or more rail as it started proturding into the unloader. In this case, investigation revealed that the track could "grow" properly on the hot days; but the only way it could "shink" was by slowly straightning out a curve in the track a quarter mile away. The track, ties & all, had been visibly moved toward the edge of the ballast.
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RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
It's near a river bank, with a lot of clays and glacial detritus. Perhaps there is a problem with the piles leading to differential settlement.
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RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
It's been rather hot in the northeast recently. So, if the rockers were significantly out of plumb a hot day could literally push them over. Also, note that one span is curved; from the photos, it seems to me that this is the one that collapsed. Curved bridges as well as straight bridges with large skews are subjected to abnormal movements. The problem is compounded if the bearings aren’t set perpendicular to the direction of movement rather than perpendicular to the girder. This could have been a contributing factor.
Unfortunately, the news report and the photos aren’t presenting a clear picture. As Lt. Columbo would say, “something’s bothering me.” In the first photo, the left span is the one that collapsed but the rocker for the fascia girder has its base pointed to the right and then there’s another rocker that’s standing (look between the joint of the two girders). If the bearings at the left side were expansion rockers, the bearing for the fascia girder should in all likelihood have been pointing to the left.
I’m trying to get some information from colleagues in the area.
RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
How do you post photos? I got some interesting shots.
It's a miracle that the span didn't go down.
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I should have mentioned those photos are from the Albany Times Union website.
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RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
From the photos I have, it appears that the rockers for the span on the right (first photo in AC's post)were over- extended (in expansion) and as a result the left span was pushed off its pedestals. Prior to the incident, the bearings for the left span were grossly overextended in contraction, which could explain why there's a rocker with its base pointing to the right.
The left span is being in place by a wing and a prayer or literally a two inch length of the bottom flanges.
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The latest I've heard is:
I suspect there will be an extensive study and a voluminous report written about this one.
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys typing on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare.
- Blair Houghton
RE: Partial collapse in Albany NY
As the rocker bearings used on this bridge, are of hinge (socket) type at the top, and true rocker (roller) at the bottom, the displacement of the span is facilitated by rotation in the socket at the top, and rolling at the bottom. Corrosion in the socket could prevent the rotation to the extent that the displacement of the bridge will be accommodated by the flexing of the pier, or footings.
I have seen similar behavior on several different bridges, when each expansion/contraction cycle increased tilt of the rockers, already inclined in one direction, as the pier slowly was creeping due to presence of steady horizontal force at the top. It would be interesting to see, if any records of the tilt of the pier exists.
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NYSDOT: DUNN MEMORIAL BRIDGE RAMP TO REOPEN IN MID NOVEMBER
Technical Report Findings Released from Extensive Investigation and Find Convergence of Factors Caused Ramp Shift
http://www.dot.state.ny.us/news/2005/102105b.shtml
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"...students of traffic are beginning to realize the false economy of mechanically controlled traffic, and hand work by trained officers will again prevail."
Wm. Phelps Eno, ca. 1928