×
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!

*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here

return loss

return loss

return loss

(OP)
what is acceptable in terms of return loss?? 10 dB 5 dB ?? just looking for a benchmark for testing antenna/cables thanks

Replies continue below

Recommended for you

RE: return loss

cables -20 dB at higher frequencies above 8 ghz
cables -30 dB for frequencies below 1 ghz

Antennas,
-9.5 dB wide bandwidth
-20 dB narrow bandwidth
-6 dB ultra wide bandwidth

transmit antennas need better performance than receive antennas typically, so they don't damage themselves.

kch

-9.5 dB rtn loss = 0.5 dB inefficiency
-6 dB rtn loss = 1.25 dB inefficiency

RE: return loss

(OP)
My spec analyzer reads returns loss in 10log(Pf/Pr)  so a good cable has a more positive return loss... what is a good level (or resource) for return loss when calculated this way?

RE: return loss

Pf is power forward
Pr is power reflected.

Positive vs. negative, hmmn depends on who's talking, however Return loss is always shown as a negative number on Agilent and Anritsu Network Analyzers.  I suppose your analyzer could show the word loss and have a positive number, but that isn't something I've ever seen before.

-10 dB says your power returned is -10 dB relative to the power forward.
Although if you say the word loss, as in return loss, then technically you can say its ten dB return loss, the word loss insinuates less than zero.
Your analyzer usually shows a -10 value. It's also the same as S21 in dB.

kch

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members! Already a Member? Login



News


Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close