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conform to or conform with?

conform to or conform with?

conform to or conform with?

(OP)
anybody can say for sure which is grammatically correct?

i'm pretty sure it was conform to.. but most ppl around me use conform with..

perhaps it doesn't matter?

appreciate any assistance.
Thanks!

RE: conform to or conform with?

Tight Lycra clothing conforms to your body.

I think you could use either if speaking about meeting a specification.

RE: conform to or conform with?


My understanding has been that you:

- conform to a singular idea.

- conform with plural, or general ideas.

RE: conform to or conform with?

I think I'm kinda with rhodie.

A brief googling indicates that they're used pretty much interchangeably--even on English usage sites!

Hg

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RE: conform to or conform with?

As per Webster,(intransitive)

When used with to or with - to be in agreement or harmony

When we have to say something like 'to act in accordance with prevailing standards or custom'- comply to

RE: conform to or conform with?

"When we have to say something like 'to act in accordance with prevailing standards or custom'- comply to"
 
Is that last part out of Webster's?  Because I'd have said the opposite.

Hg

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RE: conform to or conform with?

or comply with ? ...

what about "different to" and "different from" ...

RE: conform to or conform with?

As far as I know, "different to" is never right when used to mean something similar to "different from".  

Back to quark's last post--"comply to" is decidedly weird, but "conform to" in that exact same context would have been fine.  Maybe that's what quark meant.

Hg

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RE: conform to or conform with?

Yes, please read it as 'conform to'

RE: conform to or conform with?

I would have thought, based on logic and the Latin roots of the "con-" prefix in "conform" meaning "with", that the correct usage would be "conform with".  My Latin grammar is a bit fuzzy now (long time since junior high), but the verb "conform" would be followed by an ablative (by, with) rather than dative (to or from) form in a Latin sentence.  And English forms that are derived from Latin tend to follow Latin grammar, more or less.

But I'm not prepared to argue the point one way or another.  I don't even know how correct my long-forgotten Latin is.  The form "conform with" just sounds better than "to" to my ears!

Bung
Life is non-linear...

RE: conform to or conform with?

My personal preference would be "conform to" and "comply with". My dictionary (Concise Oxford) gives the origin as "Middle English, from Old French 'conformer', from Latin 'con - together' and 'formare - to form'.".

M

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Dr Michael F Platten

RE: conform to or conform with?

Bung--when you're talking about conforming meaning compliance, then maybe.  But if you're talking about physically conforming to a shape, it has to be "to".

I'm with MikeyP.  Using "comply with" gets away from the whole "conform to/with" debate with regard to compliance to regulations.

Hg

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RE: conform to or conform with?

Hg, do I get a prize for spotting your deliberate mistake?

"with regard to compliance to regulations"

M

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Dr Michael F Platten

RE: conform to or conform with?

I think that 'conform to' and 'conform with' are both grammatically correct.  In any given situation, I would use the one which sounds best in that context.

Good Luck
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RE: conform to or conform with?

MikeyP:  it just goes to show that English Is As She Is Spoke.  We can make all the declarations we want about what is or isn't correct, but how these things are actually used in the wild is what really counts.  That's the language; anything else is just a less or more accurate attempt at description of language.

Hg

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