Using PVC for compressed air
Using PVC for compressed air
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I have known for years that PVC is not to be used for compressed air and gases. Does anyone know the basis for that prohibition?
---KenRad
---KenRad
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RE: Using PVC for compressed air
RE: Using PVC for compressed air
---KenRad
RE: Using PVC for compressed air
RE: Using PVC for compressed air
RE: Using PVC for compressed air
For an experiment put a PVC fitting in a domestic refrigerator (temp 4C). When cool hit with a hammer.
PVC is not real good with fatigue either.
RE: Using PVC for compressed air
PVC is also subject to greater abuse from being struck or strained. Consider bumping hard against or stepping on a PVC line carrying 80 PSIG water versus a PVC line carrying 80 PSIG compressed air. When the former is bumped it may well leak, spraying the person and possibly injuring him, but the compressed air line, if cracked, will shatter explosively and will certainly cause severe injury.
For these reasons it is good practice to avoid using PVC to convey high pressure gases. Code enforcement has gone further. In 1988, OSHA ruled PVC pipe is no longer to be used for other than buried compressed gas transmissions such as compressed air. Many local regulatory agencies have similaryly outlawed PVC for above ground compressed gas applications. So, it is no longer simply a matter of bad practice, it's illegal.
Bob S
RE: Using PVC for compressed air
Note that PE pipe is also outlawed in buildings in conjunction with combustible gases because during a building fire, the melting plastic pipe will fail and allow combustible gas to enter the building and burn.
www.jm.com/msds/EN3202.pdf
RE: Using PVC for compressed air
I was a little surprised not to see hydrogen chloride and carbon monoxide (that I thought were once some potential combustion by-products at least of pvc pipe) on your sort of bad actor list! While I can’t necessarily vouch for the following references might also need to be quite careful with at least some kind of welding (see case account at http://www.aldewitt.com/soc.htm), and best don’t fabricate any kind of kind (smoking) pipes out of small pvc (pipe etc.-- see “Claudia Morgan"’s letter at htt
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Interesting anecdotes, I’m sure a Google search would turn up dozens. PVC stories have probably achieved the status of urban legend by now, but I'm pretty sure I recall the NYC DOB banning the use of PVC in new construction because of the hazardous fumes.
I just found the attached webpage that gives more detail on PVC. You can probably find more recent info.
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RE: Using PVC for compressed air
RE: Using PVC for compressed air
If there's a prohibition against PVC due to fumes for firefighting, it doesn't apply to the thousands of other PVC articles which abound in every building, so that doesn't make much sense. Any firefighter entering a burning structure has to be prepared to face a myriad of nasty pyrolysis products from modern materials of construction.
As to the fire failure safety of compressed air systems, I'd rather have my compressed air system leak during a fire than have the main storage vessel rupture due to fire exposure. Most of the small compressed air systems I've seen don't have fusible plugs in them to protect against fire, only a pressure relief valve which isn't enough.
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I've seen a hot condensate leak result in the failure of a plastic air line. While the condensate line shouldn't have leaked, that kind of thing does happen in plants, along with cowboys on lift trucks, people using horizontal pipe for ladder rungs, hanging chainfalls, etc. Unless a fluid is being handled that really requires the characteristics of plastic pipe, it's - at best - problem just waiting to happen. At worst, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
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