stainless or not
stainless or not
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I am currently looking for materials to produce some 3mm and 4mm shafts from. These will range from 50 to 80 mm in length. The shafts will be exposed to the elements, mostly dirt and water. I am afraid that the stainless will not have enough strenth compared to say a grade 5 steel bolt. But I have not found a steel alloy with enough corrosion resistance other than stainless. Currently 303 stainless is being considered becouse it is free machining. The shaft will experiance shock loads of up to 50lbs over a 25 mm area that is in double shear.
Any Ideas if the SS will hold up or is there a better steel to use that would be somewhat corrosion resistant.
Any Ideas if the SS will hold up or is there a better steel to use that would be somewhat corrosion resistant.
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I'm not a my desk but alloys like Nitronic 60, 17/4 Ph, 17/7 PH alloys will meet your design parameters as to strength.
Comeback with a little more information as to actual conditions of use or how what are the condition creating the double shear.
Also will any movement or wear be involved?
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The PH grades will have great strength in the aged condition.
You might also look at a duplex grade like 2205. Without any cold working it will have a yield strength of about 75ksi.
If you need more strength than that then look at a 300 series or 200 series alloy that has been cold drawn. You have no trouble getting 100ksi yield with good ductility.
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Corrosion never sleeps, but it can be managed.
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The main problem I expect is not that the shaft will shear is that it will bend. The bearing surfaces are nylon and will be able to flex some.
EdStainless I have been looking at the 303 ss but I am not sure if I can get it cold drawn. But all of my vendors tell me they would prefer to use 303 becouse if machines better.
I am new to making shafts of this size. In a mounting that flexes. So I am not sure if i need something with a higher yield strenth or a higher hardness so it wont bend.
Thanks
00dawg
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If machinability is really dominant (it seems like a minor cost compared to materials)then go to a cold worked stainless 304 like the ones Ugine makes with controlled oxides, the Ugima series.
2205 will have good machinability, too compared to annealed 300 series.
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This is a great place I am glad I found it. After only doing manufactuing for a few years I think I have forgot most of my "real engineering" skills.
Thanks
Sammy C. Cornelius
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Checkout the bottom of the page at following site.
http://www.morris01550.com/thrdrd.htm
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Cold drawn stainless bar will roll OK also.
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What is the distance between the two 10mm bearings?
303 might have adequate strength. You can look at your strength of materials text or machinery's handbook or mechinical engineering handbook and do the calcuation for stress.
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All the people that roll threads have the proper size wire on hand. The only problem I see is his quanity of 1000 pcs.
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00dawg
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I will contact them tomorrow but they seem to have a huge selection of metric size material.
Here is the link.
http://www.metricmetal.com/round.htm
Atleast now I can tell my vendors where to purchase instead machining down 1/8 and 3/16 rod.
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If you have an evenly distributed load and no clearance, there will be just shear at the bearing surface interface.
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