1/4 vertical vs 1/4 dipole
1/4 vertical vs 1/4 dipole
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I am wanting to build a few general pupose antennas for 802.11 and ham experimentation in the 2.4 ghz band. I was going to build a simple antenna out of a chassis rf connector, one radiator on each corner and a 1/4 verticle attached to the pin in the center of the connector. However I have seen cisco use an antenna in their fixed cofiguration 1100 ap that appears to be a 1/4 dipole with a ground " plate " if you will placed behind it. Anyone seen one of these? Its very small and has excellent coverage even at 1mw. I would really like to build something similar out of a chassis connector and some copper tube or wire. I can post pictures of the cisco unit if need be.
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RE: 1/4 vertical vs 1/4 dipole
Most simple omni antennas are very easy to build. To work over wider frequency ranges, make the wire thicker. Or the widest frequency range is with the wire shaped like a funnel. With taper angle at 30-60 degrees.
kch
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The pictures are at http://photos.yahoo.com/ciscomanvann/antenna
Any help is appreciated.
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http://photos.yahoo.com/ciscomanvann/antenna
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RE: 1/4 vertical vs 1/4 dipole
So, looking at the second photo ('ant_top') it looks to be two dipoles fed separately. I assume that this is for spacial diversity.
Each dipole has an unusual feed in that the right hand side of the dipole is fed via a half-wave delay line. I presume that this is done to provide a good match and because it is so easy to do with PCBs. If you're not making a PCB antenna, then I wouldn't bother trying to mimic that system.
One important thing to keep in mind is that you need to decide if you want high gain with directionality, or low gain with (close to) isotropic coverage. In other words, some applications demand low gain in order to achieve (nearly) isotropic coverage.
If you're making a 'ground plane antenna' using the connector, then the four horizontal radials are typically about 5% longer than quarter lambda and can be bent slightly downward to increase the feed point impedance. The primary disadvantage of a ground plane antenna is the large volume (X, Y and Z) that it occupies.
A dipole can also be assembled onto a connector. Just a quarter lambda wire going each way. There's also the sleeve dipole where the feed goes into the far end of one element.
High gain antennas for 2.4GHz are well covered on the WWW (Pringles cans for example, but there are better choices...).
Pay attention to polarity (H vs V). There can be a big (20-30dB) cross pol. loss if you not matched.
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Thanks for the feedback, i will try to roll this puppy soon and post my results and pictures for your critique if you dont mind.
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Can you elaborate on this? Also, can you all recommend any good books on microwave antennae , delay lines etc?
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You don't necessarily need to bother with complications (precise matching) between the cable and the antenna. In some cases something might be required, but it is worth trying the easy way first. The cable is probably 50 ohms, and thus would reasonably closely match either a 35-50 ohm monopole (ground plane), or a 70-75 ohm dipole. In other words, try a simple connection first.
H vs V:
The antenna shown on your picture - how are the pair of dipoles oriented when in use? Does the circuit card stand on edge so that the two dipoles are vertical, or is the circuit card laying flat so that the two dipoles are oriented horizontally?
The antennas at each end of the link need to be oriented with the same polarization (H or V).
Books:
www.ARRL.org - The American Radio Relay League has some great antenna books. Also the UK's RSGB has some great books. Browse their websites or Google for vendors.
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You gain achieve moderately high gain (about +13dBi) using two flat plates or screens.
Obviously, high gain antennas need to be aimed.
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The material and design of the reflector must be appropriate for the wavelength - at UHF you can use a few metal rods. For your application, cardboard lined with tinfoil would be the ideal prototype material.
Keep in mind that gain makes the antenna more directional. Directionality can be a Good Thing or a Bad Thing depending on your application.