idecharlotte
Structural
- Dec 15, 2008
- 49
This past winter Charlotte had a whopper snow storm with almost 6 whole inches of accumulation. I am now looking at my second roof truss failure as a result. Both situations are identical. Churches with scissor trusses spanning 46 feet, both built in the mid-90s. The truss company who did both is out of business. The failure was at the peak metal plate where the vertical chord gave way from the top chords. Failure mode was teeth pull out. Both failures occurred over the winter starting with one truss quickly followed be several others. Walls kicked out a few inches on each side and trusses dropped at least 6" before shoring was installed.
I modeled the truss on RISA and determined the vertical force under design load is 3500 lbs. and under the actual snow load conditions that caused it to fail about 2000 lbs. I did tons of internet research found the ICC report regarding the truss mending plate allowable design capacity. The allowable teeth stress should be about 192psi in SYP#2. I measured the contact area of about 17.5 sq. in which yields about 3360 lb capacity. I figured close enough since I didn't figure any C factors.
As best as I can tell the truss plate connection met the requirements of both the current ASCI/TPI-2007 and the applicable TPI-85 specifications. Upon further reading some engineers have questioned the TPI testing procedures saying they don't account for localized bending stresses and humidity/ temperature stresses that occur in real world conditions. Yet the entire industry follows them. I'm going back to investigate the first truss that failed a little more closely and see if there was some fabrication error but so far as best as I can tell, the actual capacity of the truss plates did not meet the tested/ design values.
Anyone been through this and can help?
I modeled the truss on RISA and determined the vertical force under design load is 3500 lbs. and under the actual snow load conditions that caused it to fail about 2000 lbs. I did tons of internet research found the ICC report regarding the truss mending plate allowable design capacity. The allowable teeth stress should be about 192psi in SYP#2. I measured the contact area of about 17.5 sq. in which yields about 3360 lb capacity. I figured close enough since I didn't figure any C factors.
As best as I can tell the truss plate connection met the requirements of both the current ASCI/TPI-2007 and the applicable TPI-85 specifications. Upon further reading some engineers have questioned the TPI testing procedures saying they don't account for localized bending stresses and humidity/ temperature stresses that occur in real world conditions. Yet the entire industry follows them. I'm going back to investigate the first truss that failed a little more closely and see if there was some fabrication error but so far as best as I can tell, the actual capacity of the truss plates did not meet the tested/ design values.
Anyone been through this and can help?