yosamitysamm
Mechanical
- Apr 1, 2009
- 28
Hi All,
I am trying to resolve a descepancy I have come across several times with small API 650 tanks. The tank in this example is a 3000bbl tank (23.5'D x 40'H).
Per the main body there are 2 checks for overturning:
5.11.2 item 1 This formula can be rearranged to find the maximum pressure for the given tank. In this case the max pressure without anchoring is 0.15 psi.
5.11.2 item 2 yields a max pressure of 1.84 psi without anchors.
Therefore I am limited to 0.15 psi on my tank if I want to avoid anchors.
Per App F the internal pressure of 0.15psi is greater then the weight of the roof plate but less then the weight of the shell. Therefore per Fig 4-1 the tank does not require anchors but the conditions of F1-F6 must be met.
F4.2 will also calculate a maxmium pressure to limit uplift of the shell. In this case however the maximum pressure comes out negative.
I am unsure how to inperpret this negative maximum pressure (The max pressure per F4.1 is 2 psi). Is the intent that the tank now requires anchors even thought the pressure is less then the weight of the shell?
Another question regarding F4.2. Why is there no consideration given to liquid holddown? Per 5.11.2 point 1 API 650 is looking at an empty tank and assigns a factor of safety of 1.5 on overturning (No product in tank means less risk if tank shell fails). Per 5.11.2 point 2 API 650 is looking at a half full tank and assigns a factor of safety of 2. App F4.2 gives a safety factor of 2.5 on uplift. My understanding of this increased safety factor was becasue this was looking at a full tank. However there is no allowance given for liquid hold down.
F4.2 rearranged
0.67 Mw + 0.4 Mpi < Mdl / 2.5
Anyone looked into this before? Your comments would be appreciated.
I am trying to resolve a descepancy I have come across several times with small API 650 tanks. The tank in this example is a 3000bbl tank (23.5'D x 40'H).
Per the main body there are 2 checks for overturning:
5.11.2 item 1 This formula can be rearranged to find the maximum pressure for the given tank. In this case the max pressure without anchoring is 0.15 psi.
5.11.2 item 2 yields a max pressure of 1.84 psi without anchors.
Therefore I am limited to 0.15 psi on my tank if I want to avoid anchors.
Per App F the internal pressure of 0.15psi is greater then the weight of the roof plate but less then the weight of the shell. Therefore per Fig 4-1 the tank does not require anchors but the conditions of F1-F6 must be met.
F4.2 will also calculate a maxmium pressure to limit uplift of the shell. In this case however the maximum pressure comes out negative.
I am unsure how to inperpret this negative maximum pressure (The max pressure per F4.1 is 2 psi). Is the intent that the tank now requires anchors even thought the pressure is less then the weight of the shell?
Another question regarding F4.2. Why is there no consideration given to liquid holddown? Per 5.11.2 point 1 API 650 is looking at an empty tank and assigns a factor of safety of 1.5 on overturning (No product in tank means less risk if tank shell fails). Per 5.11.2 point 2 API 650 is looking at a half full tank and assigns a factor of safety of 2. App F4.2 gives a safety factor of 2.5 on uplift. My understanding of this increased safety factor was becasue this was looking at a full tank. However there is no allowance given for liquid hold down.
F4.2 rearranged
0.67 Mw + 0.4 Mpi < Mdl / 2.5
Anyone looked into this before? Your comments would be appreciated.