George556
Electrical
- Mar 22, 2020
- 7
I work for a power utility. Due to work on a distribution circuit, we will temporarily be carrying a portion of a 16kV distribution circuit with a diesel generator since the main source will be disconnected.
The generator is 480V and there is a step up transformer (delta on 480V, Wye Grounded on 16kV). We have a recloser on the high side of the bank to protect for a fault on the circuit.
The vendor provided specs for the alternator which included Xd = 2.99pu, X'd = 0.17 pu, X"d = 0.12 pu. They also provided time constants of T'd = 0.135s and T"d = 0.01s. As a Protection Engineer, I thought I would have to trip very fast (under 0.135s + 0.01s) to be able to clear faults on the line because if I wait for it to go to steady-state, there won't be enough fault current for the recloser to trip when Xd = 2.99pu. The fault current ends up being about 33% of full load capability.
However, the vendor pointed out that the Spec Sheet also says the Alternator is separately excited by a Permanent Magnet Generator and there is also an AVR for Sustained short circuit for 10 seconds. The Spec Sheet shows a Short Circuit Decrement Curve of the sustained short circuit for a fault on the terminal of the alternator. This shows that sustained fault current is about 300% of Full-Load Current.
In literature I found that:
The steady-state fault current could either be around 0.5 x Full Load Current if there is no field overexcitation or if the generator is equipped with maximum field excitation, the "surge" voltage will cause the fault current to increase for 10 seconds to about 300% of the full load current.
We use a Short Circuit program for modelling so the vendor is recommending that I manipulate the value of Xd on my short circuit program to be able to get a value of the sustained short circuit current seen at the alternator based on the Short Circuit Decrement Curve on the Spec Sheet. Then, use that new Xd value to check end of line fault current (including the transformer and line impedance).
They also have an Application Guide that mentions "no effort should be made to determine the level of steady state fault current level by a calculation using the alternator’s advised value for the synchronous reactance (Xd). An alternator’s actual sustained short circuit level is displayed on the individual Decrement Curve for that alternator design."
The vendor recommends setting the Recloser setting high enough to avoid cold load pickup during energization. With their recommended settings, an end of line 3ph fault takes about 0.5 seconds which meets our protection criteria, but initially I thought the generator wouldn't have fault current after the Transient and Sub-Transient period.
I am leaning on going with the vendor's recommendation since they say with their equipment they are able to sustain a short circuit for 10 seconds. Have you ran into this before or have any thoughts?
The generator is 480V and there is a step up transformer (delta on 480V, Wye Grounded on 16kV). We have a recloser on the high side of the bank to protect for a fault on the circuit.
The vendor provided specs for the alternator which included Xd = 2.99pu, X'd = 0.17 pu, X"d = 0.12 pu. They also provided time constants of T'd = 0.135s and T"d = 0.01s. As a Protection Engineer, I thought I would have to trip very fast (under 0.135s + 0.01s) to be able to clear faults on the line because if I wait for it to go to steady-state, there won't be enough fault current for the recloser to trip when Xd = 2.99pu. The fault current ends up being about 33% of full load capability.
However, the vendor pointed out that the Spec Sheet also says the Alternator is separately excited by a Permanent Magnet Generator and there is also an AVR for Sustained short circuit for 10 seconds. The Spec Sheet shows a Short Circuit Decrement Curve of the sustained short circuit for a fault on the terminal of the alternator. This shows that sustained fault current is about 300% of Full-Load Current.
In literature I found that:
The steady-state fault current could either be around 0.5 x Full Load Current if there is no field overexcitation or if the generator is equipped with maximum field excitation, the "surge" voltage will cause the fault current to increase for 10 seconds to about 300% of the full load current.
We use a Short Circuit program for modelling so the vendor is recommending that I manipulate the value of Xd on my short circuit program to be able to get a value of the sustained short circuit current seen at the alternator based on the Short Circuit Decrement Curve on the Spec Sheet. Then, use that new Xd value to check end of line fault current (including the transformer and line impedance).
They also have an Application Guide that mentions "no effort should be made to determine the level of steady state fault current level by a calculation using the alternator’s advised value for the synchronous reactance (Xd). An alternator’s actual sustained short circuit level is displayed on the individual Decrement Curve for that alternator design."
The vendor recommends setting the Recloser setting high enough to avoid cold load pickup during energization. With their recommended settings, an end of line 3ph fault takes about 0.5 seconds which meets our protection criteria, but initially I thought the generator wouldn't have fault current after the Transient and Sub-Transient period.
I am leaning on going with the vendor's recommendation since they say with their equipment they are able to sustain a short circuit for 10 seconds. Have you ran into this before or have any thoughts?