Salary Survey's- middle engineering management?

[eng1234]

Looking for applicable salary survey's for Engineering managers (middle management). Any suggestions on the web appreciated.

 

[sbozy25]

http://www.payscale.com/

http://www.salary.com/

 

[eng1234]

Thanks for your tips, I have checked these sites and find them somewhat helpful.

Are their any engineering managers who manage between 3-5 Mechanical engineers willing to provide a salary range?

I have been with my current company for 3 years so I have the industry experience, but they want me to move to management, working for the Director of Engineering. I have a BSME, but no management course work completed, however I was director of Engineering in a former job managing 2 engineers.

 

[mechengdude]

There are many factors that influence your question such as industry, geographic location etc. It will probably also be a function of what you are paid now and how many years of experince you have.
Assuming you are properly paid now I would look for a 5 - 10% increase in pay. Note you may also be able to receive a management bonus now...woo hoo.

 

[sbozy25]

I am in mid-management and my boss makes roughly 30% more than me. I make around 15% more than the next guy. We are a small department, 5 engineers.... Rural Indiana....

 

[eng1234]

sbozy25,

Thanks for your comments. This helps give me some type of idea regarding mid-level management pay. What I find funny is they want to promote me from a Design engineer to this new position without ever telling me what the financial impact will be. Their response "more". Just trying to make sure they are on par with this type of job.

 

[JsTyLz]

Never rely on bonuses, never. The bottom line is base salary. If they will not negotiate base salary then you better be getting a lot of vacation time. I think a fair scale is a day for every percent they owe you. example if you think the promotion is worth 15% increase and they only give you 7%, then you deserve a week and a half of extra vacation time (7 days) to offset the lack of money.

 

[JamesBarlow]

Does anyone, who manages, look at their salaries as a percent of department budget.

If you manage a department that handles $5M a year vs. $100M a year for all projects.

I am looking to a similar situation as eng1234 of a possible new position and trying to decide how much it is worth.

 

[schnipp]

I recently stepped up from process engineer at a plant in Iowa to department superintendent. I now have 1 process engineer reporting to me, as well as 42 operators and 10 salaried staff.

I received a 10% raise.

When I received the promotion, I was told when the raise would go into affect, but not how much it would be. I found out on my next check.

That's been the only change in benefits. I havn't received any extra vacation or perks, except my own office, I guess.

 

[RDK]

Every Canadian provincial association publishes the results of their annual salary reviews.

See

http://www.apegm.mb.ca

for one and you can follow the links to other associations web pages and find their survey results.

Generally salaries in Canada and the US appear to be about the same in number of dollars. US dollars are worth about 5% more right now so a US salary would be a little higher after the exchange rates. Alberta, BC and Ontario are high cost of living areas and the salaries there are higher than in Manitoba Saskatchewan or the maritime provincess.

Watch out for the benefits involved in these comparisons. Health insurance is not a big deal here as basic health care is a government provided service. ( And believe it or not, taxes are about the same in both countries as a % of GDP )


Rick Kitson MBA P.Eng

Construction Project Management
From conception to completion

http://www.kitsonengineering.com

 

[IRstuff]

Dept budget is irrelevant. You might be managing a $100M one year and $1M, the next. Would you be willing to take a 99% paycut? We've got guys that used to manage 100-person departments, now working as an IPT lead managing 5 people.

You bring tools and skills, that's your worth.

TTFN

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