Proper Drafting Standards Documentation for startup companies 2

[FlyingGrimReaper]

I'm trying to continue a previous thread discussing standards for military work.

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I'm part of a small company that is doing defense contracting work, as part of my job, I was researching how drafting standards have changed, since I was learning engineering drafting in college (8 years ago?).

I noticed the new standard is ASME Y14.100 which was to work in conjuction with DoD standards (MIL-STD-100G).

Please let me know if there have been changes in the standards, or if I have purchased the wrong documents, or if there are additional documents with regards to drawing standards and documentation.

As a side note, purchasing the Y14.100-2004 book was $100 for 38 pages. Is this right or am I missing something?

 

[ctopher]

You can (and should) purchase the package. The price you paid seems correct.

http://www.asme.org/Codes/

Here is a list of stds you should have:

http://catalog.asme.org/home.cfm?CATEGORY=CS&TaxonomyItemID=3092

I didn't see it listed here, but somewhere the whole set can be purchased.

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[ctopher]

Also, order the PDF format, it's easier and quicker to search for data.

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[KENAT]

ASME stds are expensive, and with the exception of 14.5 most of them aren't that long.

Yq4.100 is just the top level spec which references a bunch of others.

Look through all the stds referenced in 14.100 and see which are most relevant if you don't want to get all of them. I routinely look at 14.24, 14.38, 14.3, 14.35, 14.6 & B1.1 and less frequently 14.1, 14.34

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[FlyingGrimReaper]

Ok, yeah I noticed the package had alot of documents. Some of the documents in the package did not seem to be relevant to what I was doing, but it is a good starting point. It was a little frustrating finally getting the book today to find out in the scope that they state:

"It is essential that this Standard be used in close conjunction with ASME Y14.24, ASME Y14.34M, and ASME Y14.35M."

I was expecting the revision to have a more detailed explanation of the standards or combined other documents instead of providing a reference number.

 

[KENAT]

Oh and the one I look at most by far is 14.5.

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[fcsuper]

I actually recommend not getting the PDF's unless you already have the printed versions of the ASME standards. The PDFs are heavily restricted on who can open them and use them.

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[ctopher]

Matt,
True, forgot about that. Thanks.

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[btrueblood]

Err...but you could print the pdf's. May cost a few pennies, but nowhere near the $100 new cost price.

 

[FlyingGrimReaper]

From my experience, having the book is best, as you can always scan your the book and create your own .pdf files from the scans. Then you can make multiple copies of your document.

 

[KENAT]

So long as you comply with the copyright of course.

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[fcsuper]

Also, something to think about is how to standardize CAD activities. I wrote something awhile back about this . It is SolidWorks specific, but the general outline could be applied anywhere.



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[FlyingGrimReaper]

fcsuper that is very useful thanks for the link

 

[FlyingGrimReaper]

I noticed there is a Y14.5 and a Y14.5M does the 2009 version include all data from the 1994 version, or will Y14.5 keep referencing y14.5M?

i.e. buy 2 books instead of 1?

 

[Belanger]

Y14.5 is the standard (the latest edition being 2009) and previous editions had the suffix "M" to designate it as a metric standard. But they have now dropped that and it is simply Y14.5. So it's not like there are two standards; there is only one, and a part is designed according to Y14.5-2009, or to Y14.5M-1994, or Y14.5M-1982. ( I don't know if the 1973 or 1966 editions had the "M".)






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[ak762]

I supposed "M" meaning for mechanical engineering

 

[KENAT]

You supposed wrong.

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[FlyingGrimReaper]

Thanx for the input about M, was wondering if that had anything to do with date or something else.

 

[fcsuper]

Nope...just a recognition of being for metric. Not really logical. However, it would be nice if they did track smaller revisions since every document have some issues not matter how long it's vetted prior to release.

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