ChrisBallas
Structural
- Feb 11, 2013
- 2
Hello Gents,
Imagine an 25m tall by 5.50m wide, two column piperack supporting 6 piping levels. The consequent frames are spaced every 9.00m.
The frame is a PINNED-BASE MOMENT FRAME
The first level is @+8.00m & carries minor piping.
The second level is @ +11m, & carries very heavy piping. From that level & onwards all other piping tiers are at 3m vertical spacing.
My HE550B columns form a sway frame; sidesway is uninhibited. Their first tie beam is @ +8.00m as mentioned above.
The second level beam (@11m) due to the heavy verTical PIPING loads needs to be an HE500B section.
The first level beam (@8m) could in respect of its structural checks be an HE360B; however I feel very unsafe (intuitively) to specify for such a tall moment frame its lowest beam (HE360B) to be weaker than the second storey (HE500B).
The intuition comes from the fact I would not like the frame stiffness dropping as we go lower & of course the K-factor for the columns would be higher but still not critical.
Can I specify for a moment frame the lowest beam (which is @ 8m) being weaker than the second storey one (@11m). Does it make sense?
Regards,
Chris
Imagine an 25m tall by 5.50m wide, two column piperack supporting 6 piping levels. The consequent frames are spaced every 9.00m.
The frame is a PINNED-BASE MOMENT FRAME
The first level is @+8.00m & carries minor piping.
The second level is @ +11m, & carries very heavy piping. From that level & onwards all other piping tiers are at 3m vertical spacing.
My HE550B columns form a sway frame; sidesway is uninhibited. Their first tie beam is @ +8.00m as mentioned above.
The second level beam (@11m) due to the heavy verTical PIPING loads needs to be an HE500B section.
The first level beam (@8m) could in respect of its structural checks be an HE360B; however I feel very unsafe (intuitively) to specify for such a tall moment frame its lowest beam (HE360B) to be weaker than the second storey (HE500B).
The intuition comes from the fact I would not like the frame stiffness dropping as we go lower & of course the K-factor for the columns would be higher but still not critical.
Can I specify for a moment frame the lowest beam (which is @ 8m) being weaker than the second storey one (@11m). Does it make sense?
Regards,
Chris