leader arrowhead tpoint to center of circle 2

[runleft131]

This is the first time I've ever had someone so arrogant as to cririze me for not having leader and dim arrowheads to point directly to the center of the circle from the outside. With that being siad, is there a way to get arrowheads to: 1)snap or attach to a circle and 2)point directly to the center of the circle. I've included a picture of what this "person" believes is wrong. Thanks for any direction given!

Using NX 7.5

 

[capnhook]

Can this wonderful person point to any drafting standard that annotates "his" way?

If not, it's time for "him" to learn something new.

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[JohnRBaker]

Have you tried using the 'Radius to Center' dimension method:

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[runleft131]

JohnRBaker that would work as well, but I'd probably lose my job if that line were inside the circle. The workaround I've found I can use is the Hole Dimension and just edit the text. It works, but will be a pain if the hole size changes any, as it isn't associative anymore. Just wish that note with leaders could snap to the circle and point towards the center, but one can only dream......

 

[cowski]

It works, but will be a pain if the hole size changes any, as it isn't associative anymore.

Was your original note associative? If so, copy its text (attribute/expression references) into your new dim text before deleting the hole callout note.

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[JohnRBaker]

Why are you editing the text? Why not just set the...

Annotation -> Preference -> Radial

...to 'No Symbol':

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[JohnRBaker]

I think you will find that is you use...

Insert -> Dimension -> Feature Paratmeters...

...and select your 'Hole' features that they will automatically be created with the arrow pointing toward the center of the hole:

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[runleft131]

My features are not showing up in the dialog box.

 

[runleft131]

How did you get your features to appear?

 

[JohnRBaker]

Are they real 'Hole' features or just subtracted cylinders?

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[runleft131]

They are threaded holes and simple holes.

 

[JohnRBaker]

Then you should have no problem using this approach. The dialog uses a 'navigator' like scheme so you will need to expand the 'tree' until you see the actual list of Hole feautures.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[ewh]

As to the original issue, "this person" is correct. The leader should be radial per Y14.5. I don't have the current standard with me at the moment, but I don't believe this requirement has changed since the '82 standard, which states " 1.7.4.2 Where the leader is directed to a circle or an arc, its direction should be radial."
Your attitude towards your checker seems uncalled for. It is unfortunate that you have not experienced such "arrogance" before. If you question a markup, be sure to have documentation to back yourself up. You may learn a thing or two that way.

“Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively.”
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[JohnRBaker]

The problem is that the user is using a 'label' or Radius dimension when he should have been using a Hole dimension which DOES comply with the standard.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[ewh]

I agree, John... just trying to direct the issue from the software to the user.

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[runleft131]

ewh, if you had recieved the email that I received, you may see where I am coming from. I made the mistake of not making the arrowheads radial, but did not receive the expalaination you just gave (and thanks for doing so). As for my attitude, nothing but WORK related dialouge between this checker and I from now on. It's just better for me that way. That is one thing I have gained knowledge of. And I say this with suspicion that you may be my checker....

 

[runleft131]

ewh, I've been using this software, in conjunction with GD&T, for approx. 2 months now. After using other software professionally for 6+ years. So yeah, a lot of the problems lies with me getting over the learning curve. And the software is not the most uesr freindly.....

 

[ewh]

Trust me, I'm not your checker. I would have noted why the correction was there.
And no, NX may not be the most user friendly, but it is a very powerful tool once you get the hang of it (best that I've used).
As for not communicating with the checker, I recommend again that you document why you may disagree before you question any corrections. I have found that to be a great way to learn just what is and what is not acceptable per standards used. "Personal preference" and "because that's the way we've always done it", without any documentation, always raise red flags for me but you need to choose which battles are worth fighting.
Also, I have learned about myself not to incorporate red-lines before lunch if I can avoid it... I seem to be much more aggressive about relatively minor issues first thing in the morning. ;-)

“Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively.”
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[capnhook]

Thanks guys, I learned something today.

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[cowski]

Thanks guys, I learned something today.

Me too, no more drawing submissions before lunch!

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